[gentoo-dev] Renaming ebuilds...

[gentoo-dev] Renaming ebuilds...

[Per Wigren]

We need a method to rename and move ebuilds... For example 
dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin does not belong in dev-perl... It really should be 
net-mail/spamassassin instead.. I don't think anyone using spamassassin cares 
that it is written in Perl...
Another one is x11-themes/redhat-artwork which should be called bluecurve 
instead... Yes, that one is my fault because I submitted it as redhat-artwork 
a long time ago.. ;)  But anyway..   How about a special variable in the 
ebuilds called OBSOLETES?
An example:
We move dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.52.ebuild to 
net-mail/spamassassin/spamassassin-2,52,ebuild and add the line:
OBSOLETES="dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin"

A user who has Mail-SpamAssassin installed and run "emerge -u world" would 
then "upgrade" dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin to net-mail/spamassassin..

This could also be used in other places.. Example:

net-www/galeon-1.3.0.ebuild: (when it is released)
OBSOLETES="<=net-www/galeon-cvs-20030324"


Does this sound sane? ;)
Maybe it's already implemented in some way? I admit it was a LONG time ago I 
wanted this functionality last time, but it wasn't implemented by then...

Regards,
Per Wigren

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Renaming ebuilds...

[Jon Portnoy]

This is actually already implemented. Check out 
/usr/portage/profiles/updates/*

On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:57:41AM +0100, Per Wigren wrote:
> We need a method to rename and move ebuilds... For example 
> dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin does not belong in dev-perl... It really should be 
> net-mail/spamassassin instead.. I don't think anyone using spamassassin cares 
> that it is written in Perl...
> Another one is x11-themes/redhat-artwork which should be called bluecurve 
> instead... Yes, that one is my fault because I submitted it as redhat-artwork 
> a long time ago.. ;)  But anyway..   How about a special variable in the 
> ebuilds called OBSOLETES?
> An example:
> We move dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.52.ebuild to 
> net-mail/spamassassin/spamassassin-2,52,ebuild and add the line:
> OBSOLETES="dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin"
> 
> A user who has Mail-SpamAssassin installed and run "emerge -u world" would 
> then "upgrade" dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin to net-mail/spamassassin..
> 
> This could also be used in other places.. Example:
> 
> net-www/galeon-1.3.0.ebuild: (when it is released)
> OBSOLETES="<=net-www/galeon-cvs-20030324"
> 
> 
> Does this sound sane? ;)
> Maybe it's already implemented in some way? I admit it was a LONG time ago I 
> wanted this functionality last time, but it wasn't implemented by then...
> 
> Regards,
> Per Wigren
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Renaming ebuilds...

[Abhishek Amit]

On 00:57 Wed 26 Mar     , Per Wigren wrote:
> We need a method to rename and move ebuilds... For example 
> dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin does not belong in dev-perl... It really should be 
> net-mail/spamassassin instead.. I don't think anyone using spamassassin cares 
> that it is written in Perl...
> Another one is x11-themes/redhat-artwork which should be called bluecurve 
> instead... Yes, that one is my fault because I submitted it as redhat-artwork 
> a long time ago.. ;)  But anyway..   How about a special variable in the 
> ebuilds called OBSOLETES?
> An example:
> We move dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.52.ebuild to 
> net-mail/spamassassin/spamassassin-2,52,ebuild and add the line:
> OBSOLETES="dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin"
> 
> A user who has Mail-SpamAssassin installed and run "emerge -u world" would 
> then "upgrade" dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin to net-mail/spamassassin..
> 
> This could also be used in other places.. Example:
> 
> net-www/galeon-1.3.0.ebuild: (when it is released)
> OBSOLETES="<=net-www/galeon-cvs-20030324"
> 
> 
> Does this sound sane? ;)
> Maybe it's already implemented in some way? I admit it was a LONG time ago I 
> wanted this functionality last time, but it wasn't implemented by then...
> 
> Regards,
> Per Wigren
> 
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> 
A long time ago I heard that people could not call it Bluecurve as
Redhat has a copyright on that.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Renaming ebuilds...

[Per Wigren]

On Thursday 27 March 2003 00:28, Abhishek Amit wrote:
> On 00:57 Wed 26 Mar     , Per Wigren wrote:
> > Another one is x11-themes/redhat-artwork which should be called bluecurve
> > instead... Yes, that one is my fault because I submitted it as
> > redhat-artwork a long time ago.. ;) 

> A long time ago I heard that people could not call it Bluecurve as
> Redhat has a copyright on that.

But the theme IS Bluecurve..  It's not a clone, it's not a derivate, it IS the 
original Bluecurve. Of course we must be able to call it Bluecurve.
Maybe we can't change it into another theme and still call it Bluecurve, but 
that is not the case with Gentoo. ;)

// Per

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Renaming ebuilds...

[Alastair Tse]

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On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 05:20, Per Wigren wrote:
> But the theme IS Bluecurve..  It's not a clone, it's not a derivate, it IS the 
> original Bluecurve. Of course we must be able to call it Bluecurve.

I don't think we should rename it because everyone calls it
redhat-artwork. The Redhat RPMS call it redhat-artwork, GARNOME calls it
redhat-artwork, some Debian packages also call it redhat-artwork
(http://jerakeen.org/files/debs/bluecurve). 

And even RedHat's RPM description doesn't mention it to be called
"Bluecurve":

redhat-artwork contains the themes and icons that make up the Red Hat
default look and feel.

Cheers,

Alastair
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Renaming ebuilds...

[leahcim]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 06:20:55AM +0100, Per Wigren wrote:
> On Thursday 27 March 2003 00:28, Abhishek Amit wrote:
> > On 00:57 Wed 26 Mar     , Per Wigren wrote:
> > > Another one is x11-themes/redhat-artwork which should be called bluecurve
> > > instead... Yes, that one is my fault because I submitted it as
> > > redhat-artwork a long time ago.. ;) 
> 
> > A long time ago I heard that people could not call it Bluecurve as
> > Redhat has a copyright on that.
> 
> But the theme IS Bluecurve..  It's not a clone, it's not a derivate, it IS the 
> original Bluecurve. Of course we must be able to call it Bluecurve.

Well check with your legal folk.
http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/ page 6 is probably what
you're after.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Renaming ebuilds...

[Paul de Vrieze]

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On Thursday 27 March 2003 00:28, Abhishek Amit wrote:
>
> A long time ago I heard that people could not call it Bluecurve as
> Redhat has a copyright on that.
>

A name cannot be copyright as it is trivial. It can be trademarked though, I 
guess you mean that.

Paul

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