begin quote On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:15:29 +0100 Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > Start with setting up a decent /etc/fonts/fonts.conf if it's not > there. Also an upgrade to freetype-2.1.3 might help because that > version can eat compressed bitmap fonts. (.pcf.gz which are most of > the default fonts in freetype) Wish it was that simple. the fonts.conf is clean (I removed it, and fontconfig, and then reinstated them) as is the freetype (remove and reinstate at the same time as fontconfig) so those shouldnt be the case here.. I've run fc-cache and all appears good with verbose logging. i've removed all of my ~/.kde and started over, and most of my system is as up-to-date as can be. AA fonts work in Gnome (2) and appears to be doing ok, so I'm a tad uncertain here. //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end