[gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade

[gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade

[Bob Thomas]

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When I run emerge -up world I get the following:

[ebuild    UD] sys-devel/perl-5.6.1-r7 [5.8.0-r3]
[ebuild    UD] app-crypt/gnupg-1.0.7 [1.2.1-r0]
[ebuild    UD] net-www/mozilla-1.0.1-r3 [1.2.1-r1]

These are masked packages that I installed earlier today. These are not
the only masked packages that I currently have installed, but it's what
I've installed today. Is it a coincidence that these are packages that I
just installed (and there's something special about them), or could this
be something that recently changed in Portage (the "D" is new to me) ?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

It is because perl 5.8.0 is masked.  You could trying runing the
unstable/testing version, ~.

Tom Veldhouse

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From: "Bob Thomas" <gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 6:32 PM
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade


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> When I run emerge -up world I get the following:
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> [ebuild    UD] sys-devel/perl-5.6.1-r7 [5.8.0-r3]
> [ebuild    UD] app-crypt/gnupg-1.0.7 [1.2.1-r0]
> [ebuild    UD] net-www/mozilla-1.0.1-r3 [1.2.1-r1]
>
> These are masked packages that I installed earlier today. These are not
> the only masked packages that I currently have installed, but it's what
> I've installed today. Is it a coincidence that these are packages that I
> just installed (and there's something special about them), or could this
> be something that recently changed in Portage (the "D" is new to me) ?
>
> - --
> Robert Thomas
> Georgia Institute of Technology
> Email: gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade

[Bob Thomas]

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Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
| It is because perl 5.8.0 is masked.  You could trying runing the
| unstable/testing version, ~.
|
| Tom Veldhouse
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Bob Thomas" <gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu>
| To: "gentoo-dev" <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
| Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 6:32 PM
| Subject: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade
|
|
|
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|>When I run emerge -up world I get the following:
|>
|>[ebuild    UD] sys-devel/perl-5.6.1-r7 [5.8.0-r3]
|>[ebuild    UD] app-crypt/gnupg-1.0.7 [1.2.1-r0]
|>[ebuild    UD] net-www/mozilla-1.0.1-r3 [1.2.1-r1]
|>
|>These are masked packages that I installed earlier today. These are not
|>the only masked packages that I currently have installed, but it's what
|>I've installed today. Is it a coincidence that these are packages that I
|>just installed (and there's something special about them), or could this
|>be something that recently changed in Portage (the "D" is new to me) ?
|>
|>- --
|>Robert Thomas
|>Georgia Institute of Technology
|>Email: gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu
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It isn't masked on my box (in package.mask), it's a testing package
(~arch). I emerged the new nvidia drivers and now it wants me to
downgrade them too, and they're listed above perl.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade

[Michael Cummings]

Let me step in for a sec. This is my fault (read: gentoo's perl guy atm)

The unmasking of 5.8 was *mostly* an accident. The ebuild needs a touch
up right now to assist you with fixing packages. There are still one or
two upstream problems with perl 5.8 (that is, packages that use the
libperl.so to compile against that aren't ready for 5.8 yet), and that I
can't help. Really, the only reason to keep 5.8 in glass right this
second is that there are other packages that your probably have
installed that used the libperl.so to compile against when portage saw
that you had perl, that need to be re-emerged. The list isn't as simple
as "anything that deps perl," but it's pretty close, and once re-emerged
everything is good again. For instance, vim, if it sees perl, will
compile a portion against libperl.so and will break if you upgrade your
perl on it. Re-emerging vim fixes the problem immediately.

So the short of it is, *sorry about this*, the long of it is that
perl-5.6.1 will be completely fixed (anyone who had problems with
modules going to the wrong dirs will know what that means) and 5.8, once
the post-install config is ready, will be ready for ~arch testing.

*whew*

That make any sense? Let me know,

Mike

On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 12:48:22PM -0500, Bob Thomas wrote:
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> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> | It is because perl 5.8.0 is masked.  You could trying runing the
> | unstable/testing version, ~.
> |
> | Tom Veldhouse
> |
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Bob Thomas" <gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu>
> | To: "gentoo-dev" <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
> | Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 6:32 PM
> | Subject: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade
> |
> |
> |
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> |>When I run emerge -up world I get the following:
> |>
> |>[ebuild    UD] sys-devel/perl-5.6.1-r7 [5.8.0-r3]
> |>[ebuild    UD] app-crypt/gnupg-1.0.7 [1.2.1-r0]
> |>[ebuild    UD] net-www/mozilla-1.0.1-r3 [1.2.1-r1]
> |>
> |>These are masked packages that I installed earlier today. These are not
> |>the only masked packages that I currently have installed, but it's what
> |>I've installed today. Is it a coincidence that these are packages that I
> |>just installed (and there's something special about them), or could this
> |>be something that recently changed in Portage (the "D" is new to me) ?
> |>
> |>- --
> |>Robert Thomas
> |>Georgia Institute of Technology
> |>Email: gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu
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> It isn't masked on my box (in package.mask), it's a testing package
> (~arch). I emerged the new nvidia drivers and now it wants me to
> downgrade them too, and they're listed above perl.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade

[Bob Thomas]

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Michael Cummings wrote:
| Let me step in for a sec. This is my fault (read: gentoo's perl guy atm)
|
| The unmasking of 5.8 was *mostly* an accident. The ebuild needs a touch
| up right now to assist you with fixing packages. There are still one or
| two upstream problems with perl 5.8 (that is, packages that use the
| libperl.so to compile against that aren't ready for 5.8 yet), and that I
| can't help. Really, the only reason to keep 5.8 in glass right this
| second is that there are other packages that your probably have
| installed that used the libperl.so to compile against when portage saw
| that you had perl, that need to be re-emerged. The list isn't as simple
| as "anything that deps perl," but it's pretty close, and once re-emerged
| everything is good again. For instance, vim, if it sees perl, will
| compile a portion against libperl.so and will break if you upgrade your
| perl on it. Re-emerging vim fixes the problem immediately.
|
| So the short of it is, *sorry about this*, the long of it is that
| perl-5.6.1 will be completely fixed (anyone who had problems with
| modules going to the wrong dirs will know what that means) and 5.8, once
| the post-install config is ready, will be ready for ~arch testing.
|
| *whew*
|
| That make any sense? Let me know,
|
| Mike
|
| On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 12:48:22PM -0500, Bob Thomas wrote:
|
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|>Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
|>| It is because perl 5.8.0 is masked.  You could trying runing the
|>| unstable/testing version, ~.
|>|
|>| Tom Veldhouse
|>|
|>| ----- Original Message -----
|>| From: "Bob Thomas" <gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu>
|>| To: "gentoo-dev" <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
|>| Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 6:32 PM
|>| Subject: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade
|>|
|>|
|>|
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|>|>When I run emerge -up world I get the following:
|>|>
|>|>[ebuild    UD] sys-devel/perl-5.6.1-r7 [5.8.0-r3]
|>|>[ebuild    UD] app-crypt/gnupg-1.0.7 [1.2.1-r0]
|>|>[ebuild    UD] net-www/mozilla-1.0.1-r3 [1.2.1-r1]
|>|>
|>|>These are masked packages that I installed earlier today. These are not
|>|>the only masked packages that I currently have installed, but it's what
|>|>I've installed today. Is it a coincidence that these are packages that I
|>|>just installed (and there's something special about them), or could this
|>|>be something that recently changed in Portage (the "D" is new to me) ?
|>|>
|>|>- --
|>|>Robert Thomas
|>|>Georgia Institute of Technology
|>|>Email: gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu
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|>
|>It isn't masked on my box (in package.mask), it's a testing package
|>(~arch). I emerged the new nvidia drivers and now it wants me to
|>downgrade them too, and they're listed above perl.
|>
|>- --
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|>Georgia Institute of Technology
|>Email: gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu
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Um, so, I need to go back to 5.6.1 then, right? I'm in the middle of
rebuilding everything right now (new CFLAGS). I hope I didn't mess
anything up by having 5.8 installed :-/

So what about all the other stuff (nVidia, Mozilla, . . .)? I understand
waht happened with perl (it's ok, really :-p), but how come every other
testing package I've merged recently shows up when I do a "emerge -up
world"? Is there a similar story behind all of those others? Right now
emerge -up world shows:

[ebuild    UD] media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.3123-r2 [1.0.4191-r0]
[ebuild    UD] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.3123 [1.0.4191-r0]
[ebuild    UD] sys-devel/perl-5.6.1-r7 [5.8.0-r3]
[ebuild    UD] net-www/mozilla-1.0.1-r3 [1.2.1-r1]
[ebuild    UD] app-crypt/gnupg-1.0.7 [1.2.1-r0]

I'm not giving up those new nVidia drivers

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade

[J Robert Ray]

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| |>|>When I run emerge -up world I get the following:
| |>|>
| |>|>[ebuild    UD] sys-devel/perl-5.6.1-r7 [5.8.0-r3]
| |>|>[ebuild    UD] app-crypt/gnupg-1.0.7 [1.2.1-r0]
| |>|>[ebuild    UD] net-www/mozilla-1.0.1-r3 [1.2.1-r1]
| |>|>
| |>|>These are masked packages that I installed earlier today. These
are not
| |>|>the only masked packages that I currently have installed, but it's
what
| |>|>I've installed today. Is it a coincidence that these are packages
| that I
| |>|>just installed (and there's something special about them), or could
| this
| |>|>be something that recently changed in Portage (the "D" is new to me) ?


This is the normal course of events when you do something like this:

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge some-masked-package

	then

emerge -up world

At this point, Portage pretends the masked version of
'some-masked-package' does not exist and wants to install the highest
versioned installable candidate.

The D means downgrade, I assume.

Ideally, Portage wouldn't want to downgrade these packages.  I think the
"sticky flags" feature being worked on will solve this problem.

A workaround is to inject the lower versions so Portage believes they
are already installed:

emerge -i sys-devel/perl-5.6.1-r7 app-crypt/gnupg-1.0.7
net-www/mozilla-1.0.1-r3

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade

[Michael Cummings]

Afraid I can only speak for the perl end of the house - not sure about
the others.

That said, I just got the word that the new version of portage is out
supporting PDEPEND (post-DEPENDs), so anyone using perl-5.6.1 will be
happy to know that the next release (20 minutes or so) will fix
ExtUtils-MakeMake for you =:D


On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:16:33PM -0500, Bob Thomas wrote:
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> Um, so, I need to go back to 5.6.1 then, right? I'm in the middle of
> rebuilding everything right now (new CFLAGS). I hope I didn't mess
> anything up by having 5.8 installed :-/
> 
> So what about all the other stuff (nVidia, Mozilla, . . .)? I understand
> waht happened with perl (it's ok, really :-p), but how come every other
> testing package I've merged recently shows up when I do a "emerge -up
> world"? Is there a similar story behind all of those others? Right now
> emerge -up world shows:
> 
> [ebuild    UD] media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.3123-r2 [1.0.4191-r0]
> [ebuild    UD] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.3123 [1.0.4191-r0]
> [ebuild    UD] sys-devel/perl-5.6.1-r7 [5.8.0-r3]
> [ebuild    UD] net-www/mozilla-1.0.1-r3 [1.2.1-r1]
> [ebuild    UD] app-crypt/gnupg-1.0.7 [1.2.1-r0]
> 
> I'm not giving up those new nVidia drivers
> 
> - --
> Robert Thomas
> Georgia Institute of Technology
> Email: gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu
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[gentoo-dev] AUTOCLEAN="yes" destroyed my system (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade)

[Cong]

Recently portage behaves really strangely on my system.
When I do "emerge clean", Portage trys to clean newest packages
For example with phoenix-bin:

# emerge net-www/phoenix-bin
SUCCESS
# emerge net-www/phoenix-bin -p 
[ebuild   R  ] net-www/phoenix-bin-0.4-r2 
# emerge net-www/phoenix-bin -cp

>>> These are the packages that I would unmerge:

 net-www/phoenix-bin
    selected: 0.4-r2
   protected: 20021121
     omitted: none

And the problem is that this happened with sys-apps/portage itself,
i.e, after upgrade previous version to portage-2.0.45-r5, portage
cleaned sys-apps/portage-2.0.45-r5 ( it tried to kept
sys-apps/portage-2.0.45-r4) and portage got broken. Same things
happened with almost all packages: gcc, glibc, xfree ....

Now I am forced to put AUTOCLEAN="no" in /etc/make.conf .

/ Cong

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Re: [gentoo-dev] AUTOCLEAN="yes" destroyed my system (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage wants to downgrade)

[George Shapovalov]

Yes, this is indeed not very good behaviour. It should be remedied along the 
sticky flag dependency development. Please submit the proper bug report (I 
did not find one in a quick search for "autoclean") so that this issue won't 
get forgotten.

Meanwhile you should probably choose to stay clear from combining all three 
of:
1. KEYWORDS="~arch" emerge pkgname   (adding "~arch" to make.conf should be 
safe in *that* respect, though clearly you may not want to do this for other 
reasons)
2. AUTOCLEAN="yes" and
3. emerge -u world
(basically, this is a classical "choose any two" situation).

George


On Sunday 15 December 2002 06:09, Cong wrote:
> Recently portage behaves really strangely on my system.
> When I do "emerge clean", Portage trys to clean newest packages
> For example with phoenix-bin:
>
> # emerge net-www/phoenix-bin
> SUCCESS
> # emerge net-www/phoenix-bin -p
> [ebuild   R  ] net-www/phoenix-bin-0.4-r2
> # emerge net-www/phoenix-bin -cp
>
> >>> These are the packages that I would unmerge:
>
>  net-www/phoenix-bin
>     selected: 0.4-r2
>    protected: 20021121
>      omitted: none
>
> And the problem is that this happened with sys-apps/portage itself,
> i.e, after upgrade previous version to portage-2.0.45-r5, portage
> cleaned sys-apps/portage-2.0.45-r5 ( it tried to kept
> sys-apps/portage-2.0.45-r4) and portage got broken. Same things
> happened with almost all packages: gcc, glibc, xfree ....
>
> Now I am forced to put AUTOCLEAN="no" in /etc/make.conf .
>
> / Cong


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