[gentoo-dev] log rotation

[gentoo-dev] log rotation

[Toby Dickenson]

Some gentoo packages come with log rotation scripts (sysklogd) and others do 
not (squid, wtmp, kdm). Is there a gentoo policy on whether packages should 
rotate their own logs?

Would patches to add rotation scripts to existing packages be accepted?

Re: [gentoo-dev] log rotation

[Christopher J. PeBenito]

Why not just use app-admin/logrotate?  I use metalog, and then logrotate
to rotate everything else.

Chris

On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 12:12, Toby Dickenson wrote:
> Some gentoo packages come with log rotation scripts (sysklogd) and others do 
> not (squid, wtmp, kdm). Is there a gentoo policy on whether packages should 
> rotate their own logs?
> 
> Would patches to add rotation scripts to existing packages be accepted?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] log rotation

[Toby Dickenson]

On Wednesday 02 Oct 2002 7:34 pm, Christopher J. PeBenito wrote:
> Why not just use app-admin/logrotate?  

Ive used logrotate and /usr/bin/savelog (from sys-apps/debianutils), and have 
no strong preference either way.

> I use metalog, and then logrotate
> to rotate everything else.

But you had to write the logrotate.conf entries yourself, right? Shouldnt 
'everything else' take care of rotating its own logs?

Re: [gentoo-dev] log rotation

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Wednesday 02 October 2002 20:34, Christopher J. PeBenito wrote:
> Why not just use app-admin/logrotate?  I use metalog, and then logrotate
> to rotate everything else.
>

Logrotate still needs a script to rotate those logs. It would be handy if 
those scripts were installed along the package (preferably made inactive 
though, possibly by removing read rights)

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] log rotation

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Wednesday 02 October 2002 20:34, Christopher J. PeBenito wrote:
> Why not just use app-admin/logrotate?  I use metalog, and then logrotate
> to rotate everything else.

Logrotate still needs a script to rotate those logs. It would be handy if
those scripts were installed along the package (preferably made inactive
though, possibly by removing read rights)

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] log rotation

[Toby Dickenson]

(repost. waaah - closed lists suck)

On Wednesday 02 Oct 2002 7:34 pm, Christopher J. PeBenito wrote:
> Why not just use app-admin/logrotate?  

Ive used logrotate and /usr/bin/savelog (from sys-apps/debianutils), and have 
no strong preference either way.

> I use metalog, and then logrotate
> to rotate everything else.

But you had to write the logrotate.conf entries yourself, right? Shouldnt 
'everything else' take care of rotating its own logs?

Re: [gentoo-dev] log rotation

[Mike Frysinger]

we leave log rotation as an exercise for the user ...

root@vapier root # emerge -s logrotate
Searching...   
[ Results for search key : logrotate ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
 
*  app-admin/logrotate
      Latest version available: 3.5.9-r1
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Homepage: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/logrotate.html
      Description: Rotates, compresses, and mails system logs

-mike

On Wednesday 02 October 2002 01:12 pm, Toby Dickenson wrote:
> Some gentoo packages come with log rotation scripts (sysklogd) and others
> do not (squid, wtmp, kdm). Is there a gentoo policy on whether packages
> should rotate their own logs?
>
> Would patches to add rotation scripts to existing packages be accepted?
> _______________________________________________
> gentoo-dev mailing list
> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] log rotation

[Toby Dickenson]

On Wednesday 02 Oct 2002 8:17 pm, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 October 2002 20:34, Christopher J. PeBenito wrote:
> > Why not just use app-admin/logrotate?  I use metalog, and then logrotate
> > to rotate everything else.
>
> Logrotate still needs a script to rotate those logs. It would be handy if
> those scripts were installed along the package (preferably made inactive
> though, possibly by removing read rights)

An autologrotation use flag?

Re: [gentoo-dev] log rotation

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Thursday 03 October 2002 08:31, Toby Dickenson wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 Oct 2002 8:17 pm, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 October 2002 20:34, Christopher J. PeBenito wrote:
> > > Why not just use app-admin/logrotate?  I use metalog, and then
> > > logrotate to rotate everything else.
> >
> > Logrotate still needs a script to rotate those logs. It would be handy if
> > those scripts were installed along the package (preferably made inactive
> > though, possibly by removing read rights)
>
> An autologrotation use flag?

That could be a way to have optional installation of log rotating scripts. The 
problem with automatically installed rotation scripts is that logrotation is 
sensitive and should be done with the users' concent

Paul

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