From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_MISSING, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from minerva.objectrealms.net (adsl-66-123-57-59.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [66.123.57.59]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACB9AC54D for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:31:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archimedes (adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [66.123.57.58]) by minerva.objectrealms.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F732018D6F; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 20:06:36 -0700 (PDT) From: k Reply-To: k_vertigo@objectrealms.net To: Fred Van Andel , gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] A proposal for discussion Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:12:34 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.6 References: <20020927151320.0186BED8.fred@vanandel.net> In-Reply-To: <20020927151320.0186BED8.fred@vanandel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200209292112.34975.k_vertigo@objectrealms.net> Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 0af14952-e1a4-4ce9-81af-f24ad51ebb71 X-Archives-Hash: e892ee3390afa37f841f62532c2842b5 there seems to be a cultural issue here as well, in that core development takes place beyond public introspection. without the knowledge transfer and insight into core direction that naturally takes place on such core lists, 'outsiders' will be at a natural communication disjoint when trying to work on tasks. at a minimum opening up the archives to public inspection should accompany any todo list, and in my opinion should be accessible regardless of the outcome of any todo list initiative. two cents, -k On Friday 27 September 2002 03:13 pm, Fred Van Andel wrote: > Gentoo is a rapidly growing distribution, with that growth comes > a number of problems. The workload on the core development team > is increasing all the time and if something is not done to address > it the development of Gentoo will suffer. > > It is clear that there are many dedicated individuals involved in > Gentoo who are not involved as part of the development team. Its > only necessary to monitor one of the mailing lists or browse > through the support forums to realize that. A lot of these people > may not be qualified to be a full-fledged member of the core > development team but they still have skills/time to offer back to > the community. > > Therefore I propose that a public ToDo list be created along with > a list coordinator so that the talents of these people can be used. > Tasks would be posted on the public list and assigned to specific > individuals who volunteer. Tasks should be kept specific rather > than open-ended and have a scheduled completion date, if necessary > tasks can be broken up into smaller independent tasks to achieve > these goals. > > By the creation of such a list we could help free up the core > developers to do other things, and at the same time speed up the > completion of many of the necessary but routine tasks that seem to > take up so much time. By taking some of the workload off of the > developers we can allow them to do what they do best, and that is > to develop and refine the features that have attracted us to Gentoo > in the first place. > > Some tasks that might be suitable for inclusion on the list: > - Creation and proofreading of new translations of the > documentation. > - Monitoring of the package list for version changes. > - Creation of a troubleshooting guide based on the Q & A from > the mailing lists and forums. > - Testing of the ebuild scripts/compilation on less common > platforms. > - Creation of new ebuild scripts base on user requests. > - Updating/testing of ebuild scripts when new versions of > packages are developed. > - The role of ToDo list coordinator(s) > > The core developers should be in control of the contents of the > list to prevent a loss of focus and would have veto powers over the > tasks to be assigned and the results of the completed tasks. > > I now having said my piece I open it up for public discussion. > > Fred Van Andel > > _______________________________________________ > gentoo-dev mailing list > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org > http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev