From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_QUAR,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from master.ufies.org (folly.ufies.org [204.174.19.9]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DFFAC55F for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:17:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: by master.ufies.org (Postfix, from userid 1032) id BCAA71873D0; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:17:04 -0700 From: Alan To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Spam filters Message-ID: <20020927161704.GA641@ufies.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org References: <20020927122808.31B2EA30B0@mbox1.su.se> <20020927150350.GK19495@kruhft.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020927150350.GK19495@kruhft.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 709edcf9-290b-4fdb-8e6c-6c209fb932f7 X-Archives-Hash: e7a8c0bd77a527cd58be28e182b4847d --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 08:03:50AM -0700, Burton Samograd wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 02:28:08PM +0200, Henrik Treadup wrote: > > Spam is (I assume) a problem not only for the gentoo-dev mailing list b= ut=20 > > also for all other gentoo lists. Closing gentoo-dev doesn't solve the= =20 > > problem. The other lists will still get spam. > > Should the other lists also be closed? (Closing gentoo-newbies is proba= bly=20 > > a bad idea.) The solution IMHO is a filter on the gentoo mailserver.=20 > >=20 >=20 > How is making the list subscriber only closing it? I'm on about 20 > other mailing lists, all subscribe only and I get no spam on them. > This problem has been solved long ago...there is no need to waste > server processor cycles for spam filtering on lists. If people are > scared that there newbies 'won't be able to figure out' hot to > subscribe, I'm on some music development lists where the people on > there barely even know how to use the computer for anything else other > than email and can still figure it out. >=20 > I'm pretty sure that anybody that uses email can figure out how to > read a page, send an email and a send a reply when they get it. I have to agree with this. Someone mentioned the reason was accessability to new users, but I'm in the same situation as Burton, on a bunch of lists, all subscriber only, except for gimp-dev (which gets spam as well, or did when I was still receiving mail to it). My feeling is that if a new users isn't smart enough to go to a web page and fill in an email, then respond to a message, will the be able to post to the list, and then find the list archives to search for any answers? Of course they could just asked to be cc'd on replies, but that is bad netiquette, and we don't want to encourage that :)=20 The other thing is that the only gentoo list I'm getting spam from is gentoo-dev, so obviously someone got it on a spam list somewhere, and why not close down the list with the problem (and the list less likely to get newbies on it IMHO). =20 Totally OT, I installed bogofilter this morning thanks to the suggestions on the list, and it seems to be working fine so far. Only one piece of spam caught, but it's one for one so far :) Kinda wierd when you actually *want* spam (if only to catch it!) Regards, Alan --=20 Alan "Arcterex" -=3D][=3D- http://arcterex.net "I used to herd dairy cows. Now I herd lusers. Apart from the isolation, I think I preferred the cows. They were better conversation, easier to milk, = and if they annoyed me enough, I could shoot them and eat them." -Rodger Donald= son --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9lISAXi0GrvpeI94RAqh0AKCK2OE+MUg63Vim8skCPugpgVKMFACfYuAN y7pblzqEi+hy0gExnM8H1rs= =djJD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK--