[gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug

[gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug

[david mattatall]

It should be all ready implimented but there should be a requirement to add  
somthing like:

use debug && myconf="$myconf  --enable-debug" || myconf="$myconf  
--disable-debug"

To every ebuild for programs that support it. I know for a fact my KDE is 40% 
faster now that I've modified my ebuilds to do that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug

[mike]

anytime you come across something that doesnt disable debug
and in fact has the option feel free to post something to the
list and bugs.gentoo.org ... i usually try to sed out -g and such
from Makefiles when making ebuild's
-mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "david mattatall" <davidsmind@linuxbasics.com>
To: <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 20:39
Subject: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug


It should be all ready implimented but there should be a requirement to add
somthing like:

use debug && myconf="$myconf  --enable-debug" || myconf="$myconf
--disable-debug"

To every ebuild for programs that support it. I know for a fact my KDE is
40%
faster now that I've modified my ebuilds to do that.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug

[Jon Nelson]

On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:23:09 -0400
"mike" <vapier@netzero.com> wrote:

> anytime you come across something that doesnt disable debug
> and in fact has the option feel free to post something to the
> list and bugs.gentoo.org ... i usually try to sed out -g and such
> from Makefiles when making ebuild's

However, that is inappropriate. That is what the debug use flag is for.
I personally feel that the default should be to build with debug symbols
on (but not profiling), but I also believe that for Gentoo (performance
oriented), the best default would be for the 'debug' use flag to be
turned off.  In fact, I consider it a bug if an ebuild does *not* allow
for a debug-enabled build to be built.


-- 
Pound for pound, the amoeba is the most vicious animal on earth.

Jon Nelson <jnelson@jamponi.net>
C and Python Code Gardener

Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug

[mike]

i might point out that there is no debug use flag atm.
i'm not saying there shouldn't be one, just saying
one doesn't currently exist so i dont code for it.
as soon as one gets put into use.desc i'll rewrite ebuilds
-mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Nelson" <jnelson@jamponi.net>
To: "mike" <vapier@netzero.com>
Cc: <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 22:22
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug


> On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:23:09 -0400
> "mike" <vapier@netzero.com> wrote:
> 
> > anytime you come across something that doesnt disable debug
> > and in fact has the option feel free to post something to the
> > list and bugs.gentoo.org ... i usually try to sed out -g and such
> > from Makefiles when making ebuild's
> 
> However, that is inappropriate. That is what the debug use flag is for.
> I personally feel that the default should be to build with debug symbols
> on (but not profiling), but I also believe that for Gentoo (performance
> oriented), the best default would be for the 'debug' use flag to be
> turned off.  In fact, I consider it a bug if an ebuild does *not* allow
> for a debug-enabled build to be built.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Pound for pound, the amoeba is the most vicious animal on earth.
> 
> Jon Nelson <jnelson@jamponi.net>
> C and Python Code Gardener
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Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug

[david mattatall]

----------  Forwarded Message  ----------

Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug
Date: September 16, 2002 06:47 pm
From: david mattatall <davidsmind@linuxbasics.com>
To: "mike" <vapier@netzero.com>

On September 16, 2002 06:23 pm, mike wrote:
> anytime you come across something that doesnt disable debug
> and in fact has the option feel free to post something to the
> list and bugs.gentoo.org ... i usually try to sed out -g and such
> from Makefiles when making ebuild's
> -mike

I think it would be handy for developers to have the "DEBUG" as a use flag,
and handy for end users to have it default to -debug.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug

[Corvus Corax]

Am Mon, 16 Sep 2002 23:17:07 -0400
schrieb "mike" <vapier@netzero.com>:

> i might point out that there is no debug use flag atm.
> i'm not saying there shouldn't be one, just saying
> one doesn't currently exist so i dont code for it.
> as soon as one gets put into use.desc i'll rewrite ebuilds
> -mike
> 
there really should be one.

specially for librarys, if you develop for example QT or gtk programs u might want to have gtk and Qt libs unstrapped,
but if not, you of course want to have seem clean and fast and.

please everyone we really NEED a debug flag! debug! debug! debug!!!

i mean. ok its fun to browse asm-code with gdb, yeah, specially in big librarys that rocks, and if your own program uses debug symbols you can live
with it, but it would just be MUCH easyer.


Corvus V Corax - who finally started developing some gtk stuff <g>

Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Tuesday 17 September 2002 06:51, david mattatall wrote:
> ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug
> Date: September 16, 2002 06:47 pm
> From: david mattatall <davidsmind@linuxbasics.com>
> To: "mike" <vapier@netzero.com>
>
> On September 16, 2002 06:23 pm, mike wrote:
> > anytime you come across something that doesnt disable debug
> > and in fact has the option feel free to post something to the
> > list and bugs.gentoo.org ... i usually try to sed out -g and such
> > from Makefiles when making ebuild's
> > -mike
>
> I think it would be handy for developers to have the "DEBUG" as a use flag,
> and handy for end users to have it default to -debug.
>

I think it also should automagically be enabled if the emerge -debug option is 
used, and if set in use it should also disable the default stripping of 
binaries.

Paul

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Junior Researcher
Mail: pauldv@cs.kun.nl
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Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug

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> there really should be one.
> 
> specially for librarys, if you develop for example QT or gtk programs
> u might want to have gtk and Qt libs unstrapped, but if not, you of
> course want to have seem clean and fast and.
> 
> please everyone we really NEED a debug flag! debug! debug! debug!!!
> 
> i mean. ok its fun to browse asm-code with gdb, yeah, specially in big
> librarys that rocks, and if your own program uses debug symbols you
> can live with it, but it would just be MUCH easyer.
> 
> 
> Corvus V Corax - who finally started developing some gtk stuff <g>


we do however have $DEBUG and $DEBUGBUILD  which will make sure the
package isn't stripped and soforth.

for ebuildwriters, "inherit debug" in packages that are known to be
unstable high-development things. (cvs ebuilds, next-generation-beta
Things)



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Re: [gentoo-dev] --disable-debug, my friend...--disable-debug

[david mattatall]

So. Was this thread spotted by a gentoo dev? What is to become of the DEBUG 
use flag?