From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_MISSING, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (sdf.lonestar.org [207.202.214.132]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C734AC3D2; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 21:12:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from eread@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g7R2CZe08983; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 02:12:35 GMT Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 02:12:35 +0000 From: Evan Read To: George Shapovalov Cc: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org, mpickers@optusnet.com.au Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] State of Developement Message-ID: <20020827021235.GB11250@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <20020826064346.GX5078@squish.home.loc> <20020826180102.GA7111@jackpot.localdomain> <20020826192857.GA15770@orange-pc.ces.clemson.edu> <200208261524.41211.george@gentoo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200208261524.41211.george@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: a35e5edf-2d40-45f9-aa71-244ea0ee69e0 X-Archives-Hash: 9b898232837a7f1fe8d539cc1b8ffa85 On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 03:24:40PM -0700, George Shapovalov wrote: > The point I am getting at here is that we should and can allow our users to > take care of a large portion of non-crytical packages. What we need is: > 1. Multiple stability levels or KEYWORDS > 2. Streamlined ebuild processing - that automates submission of new > ebuilds/versions and assigns them some kind of "new" or "user-test" > keyword/level > 3.Feedback system that collects user voices and moves ebuilds to corresponding > categories increasing or decreasing their stability rating. > 4. Core group oversees and takes care of the core/crytical stuff and has > *much* more time to work onportage/sysinit/other_more_distro_specifc_stuff > Well, that would be one possible point of view on this :). Keywords, hey? So I could track a stable tree that doesn't change so much and doesn't break? Is this coming with 1.4? > 1. multitude of profiles (not just arch/gcc specific but tailored to certain > tasks: such as server vs desktop, etc.) Oh sweet ;) desktop+stable? ;) > And it all takes quite some work, so any help is appreciated; but then any > exciting project has a lot of routine associated with it. This sounds good George. I have been evaluating Gentoo of the last few days and I keep coming back to "it needs a stable tree". I really hate breakages. I would prolly be willing to test new stuff in VMWare or UML, but not my main system. I think that having different, trackable releases would be a turning point for the distribution. It could become useful for production. p.s. Is there a page that lists new stuff coming in 1.4? Thanks! -- Evan Read http://eread.freeshell.org "The future comes 60 minutes an hour no matter who you are or what you do." The Screwtape Letters - C.S. Lewis