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Today's Topics: 1. Re: packaging (Mecho Puh) 2. Pledge of Allegiance. Please forward (Ken Cutshall) 3. Re: Pledge of Allegiance. Please forward (Russell Tennant) 4. Re: Peer-to-Peer? (Nils Decker) 5. How to get gentoo-web (Werner, Sebastian) 6. Fwd: Re: [gentoo-dev] Peer-to-Peer? (Yannick Koehler) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Mecho Puh Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:57:07 +0900 Reply-To: mecho@web.de Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: packaging > I think I've read someplace that one could emerge a package, have it compile > and then tar.gz the results so that next time there's no need to re-compile. > For example that is used I believe when installing 2 similar system. http://gentoo.zhware.net/fuq.html#development_sect2 --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Ken Cutshall" Reply-To: "Ken Cutshall" To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 02:36:41 -0400 Subject: [gentoo-dev] Pledge of Allegiance. 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Please forward Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 01:50:36 -0500 On Friday 19 July 2002 01:36 am, Ken Cutshall wrote: > =20 > > Targeted OPT-IN E-Mail Services > Orlando, FL - Atlanta, GA > OK, who's the wiseguy who opted gentoo-dev in on this fantastic offer?=20 Seriously, can we check posts against subscribers? Is this possible,=20 worthwhile, bad side effects, etc? It'd be nice not to get all the virii=20 warnings, spam, etc. I know this has been mentioned - just haven't seen a= ny=20 responses to those questions. Thanks. -- Russ Tennant russ@spitwad.org --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:20:09 +0200 From: Nils Decker To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Peer-to-Peer? Marko Mikulicic wrote: > Yannick Koehler wrote: > and then > > propose or take it from the distribution system. Basically the > > same as ccache ;-) > > > > I like the idea. I was thinking of something similar. > I think it's possible to hash the use flags used to build > the package and compare it to the package to be downloaded. I see another problem with this. There is no way to make the packages trusted. In the portage tree, every downloaded file is checked against a MD5 hash. This means, I have to trust the person who build the port. This is not a big problem to me, because those people are "near" to the gentoo core, and everybody can check the MD5s against the official downloads of the packet. I can't do this sort of check agains precompiled binaries, because every binary would have a different MD5. The only way to check would to compile the package myself with the same flags, thus defeating the purpose. Using those binary packages means to trust every user of gentoo, that he doesn't put trojans or whatever on my system. My 0,02 EUR Nils -- The primary purpose of the DATA statement is to give names to constants; instead of referring to pi as 3.141592653589793 at every appearance, the variable PI can be given that value with a DATA statement and used instead of the longer form of the constant. This also simplifies modifying the program, should the value of pi change. -- FORTRAN manual for Xerox Computers Nils Decker --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:15:30 +0200 From: "Werner, Sebastian" To: Subject: [gentoo-dev] How to get gentoo-web Hi, I want to sync the xml/xsl files of gentoo-web without need to emerge = gentoo-web each time. In webcvs there is a directory gentoo-web inside = gentoo-src. So I tried to cvs checkout this and only get the also listed = gentoo-xml, which includes only empty directories. So how I could get this files in gentoo-dev/gentoo-web? Is there a other = better possibiliy? Regards Sebastian Werner --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Yannick Koehler Organization: Colubris Networks Inc. Subject: Fwd: Re: [gentoo-dev] Peer-to-Peer? Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:41:05 -0400 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On July 18, 2002 07:23 pm, Marko Mikulicic wrote: > However I doubt of the practical usefulness of a global peer-to-peer > solution. I have an 128bps upstream bandwidth and everyone going to > copy compiled kde-3.0 from me would compile it faster on PIII500 (~). > Since the userbase not so big as *pster and the number of combinations > of use flags is big, it is not very likely to find a package provided b= y > a fast host. > > I think it can be useful in a lan where, for whatever reasion, the > machines doesn't share the same use flag configuration. If a package > desn't use the "mysql" use-flag then it doesn't depend of having it or = not. The peer-to-peer system would be interesting for the source package as we= ll as the binary one. While one may claim that the use/cflags combination = is too big, I, on the other side believe that the vast majority of the user= are using quite similar flags. Also, the variation of the USE flags could b= e reduce if the USE file inside the /var/db/pkg folder only contained the = one that was actually making a difference for the output of that package. - - -- Yannick Koehler -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9OAjhfuKOJNEyL1URAmVNAJ4qtKuiws/WYUukKYJd6mkDzAEP2gCgoa3b KSUKnUzu42YNUBsw51ZqciM=3D =3DtEsB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --__--__-- _______________________________________________ gentoo-dev mailing list gentoo-dev@gentoo.org http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev End of gentoo-dev Digest --_----------=_1029372391751858--