[gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Jon Griffin]

I need to create the /etc/logcheck directory and it seems that (sandbox?)
is preventing this. Any help would be appreciated and if I missed it in the
doc please let me know.

Here is the error:

Creating install directory /etc/logcheck
ACCESS DENIED  mkdir:     /etc/logcheck

Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[George Shapovalov]

dodir /etc/logcheck
also please check the contents of /usr/lib/portage/bin/ for what's available 
(such as dobin, dodoc ...).
You should be using these instead of direct mkdir, cp, mv...

Sometimes you may want to do something nonstandsrd or may be some recursive 
task and it may be desireble to do cp -r someplace omeother_place. In any 
case, *do not* perform any such operation on a "live sustem", that is right 
under /usr or whereever. Use ${D}/usr/what/ever instead. ${D} will point to 
the right place, where package gets installed before merging in.
  Also, it would be usefull to read some doc on sandbox'ing. This is mentioned 
in developer docs on gentoo.org, "man emerge" and "man ebuild" should also 
help.

George


On Wednesday 07 August 2002 13:32, Jon Griffin wrote:
> I need to create the /etc/logcheck directory and it seems that (sandbox?)
> is preventing this. Any help would be appreciated and if I missed it in the
> doc please let me know.
>
> Here is the error:
>
> Creating install directory /etc/logcheck
> ACCESS DENIED  mkdir:     /etc/logcheck

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Jon Griffin]

Thanks,
Now I know where to look.

On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:41:08 -0700 George Shapovalov <georges@its.caltech.edu> wrote:

> dodir /etc/logcheck
> also please check the contents of /usr/lib/portage/bin/ for what's
> available 
> (such as dobin, dodoc ...).
> You should be using these instead of direct mkdir, cp, mv...
> 
> Sometimes you may want to do something nonstandsrd or may be some
> recursive 
> task and it may be desireble to do cp -r someplace omeother_place. In
> any 
> case, *do not* perform any such operation on a "live sustem", that is
> right 
> under /usr or whereever. Use ${D}/usr/what/ever instead. ${D} will point
> to 
> the right place, where package gets installed before merging in.
>   Also, it would be usefull to read some doc on sandbox'ing. This is
> mentioned 
> in developer docs on gentoo.org, "man emerge" and "man ebuild" should
> also 
> help.
> 
> George
> 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Mark Guertin]

On Wednesday 07 August 2002 20:41, George Shapovalov wrote:
> dodir /etc/logcheck
> also please check the contents of /usr/lib/portage/bin/ for what's
> available (such as dobin, dodoc ...).
> You should be using these instead of direct mkdir, cp, mv...

you can also look at:

man 5 ebuild

Mark

Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Marius Bernklev]

Mark Guertin <gerk@gentoo.org> writes:

> On Wednesday 07 August 2002 20:41, George Shapovalov wrote:
>> dodir /etc/logcheck
>> also please check the contents of /usr/lib/portage/bin/ for what's
>> available (such as dobin, dodoc ...).
>> You should be using these instead of direct mkdir, cp, mv...
>
> you can also look at:
>
> man 5 ebuild

...which is in dire need of updating.  As is the howto on http.


Marius
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Mark Guertin]

On Wednesday 07 August 2002 23:11, Marius Bernklev wrote:
> > you can also look at:
> >
> > man 5 ebuild
>
> ...which is in dire need of updating.  As is the howto on http.

Does that mean you're volunteering? :P

Mark

Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Marius Bernklev]

Mark Guertin <gerk@gentoo.org> writes:

> On Wednesday 07 August 2002 23:11, Marius Bernklev wrote:
>> > you can also look at:
>> >
>> > man 5 ebuild
>>
>> ...which is in dire need of updating.  As is the howto on http.
>
> Does that mean you're volunteering? :P

Oops.  Oh well, at least python is easy to read. :)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Charles Lacour]

On Wednesday 07 August 2002 18:17, Marius Bernklev wrote:
> Mark Guertin <gerk@gentoo.org> writes:
> > On Wednesday 07 August 2002 23:11, Marius Bernklev wrote:
> >> > you can also look at:
> >> > man 5 ebuild
> >> ...which is in dire need of updating.  As is the howto on http.
> > Does that mean you're volunteering? :P
>
> Oops.  Oh well, at least python is easy to read. :)
>
>
> Marius

_I'll_ volunteer to (re)write it, if someone will give me a boost up the 
learning curve with Python.

I want to write some ebuilds myself, but I lack the time to figure out Python 
cold.  I quit learning (most) new languages about the time object-oriented 
proogramming started up. The explanations of OOP in the early days were... 
cryptic? Obtuse? A tangled bunch of gobbledygook? Something in that general 
direction...    Anyway, I wasn't working as a programmer, so I dropped out of 
the "Language of the Month" club.

What I've seen of Python looks pretty easy, but there are some basic concepts 
I don't have, and trying to reason backward to them from somebody else's code 
hasn't worked too well.

I'd also like to get (and am willing to pay for with documentation of same) 
an explanation of what exactly it is that sandbox does. (And probably a 
couple of other pieces of portage.)

I know it keeps things from messing with the real filesystem, but _how_, 
specifically?  It's much harder to figure out why you're having a problem 
with something when you have no idea what it's doing.

Since quasi-teaching somebody a language via email and such is not real high 
on many people's list of fun things to do, I'll also put in a request for any 
good online tutorials on doing Python. (And if the doc for portage still 
needs to be done once I've mastered it, I'll be willing to help.)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Thursday 08 August 2002 06:09, Charles Lacour wrote:
>
> I'd also like to get (and am willing to pay for with documentation of same)
> an explanation of what exactly it is that sandbox does. (And probably a
> couple of other pieces of portage.)
>
> I know it keeps things from messing with the real filesystem, but _how_,
> specifically?  It's much harder to figure out why you're having a problem
> with something when you have no idea what it's doing.
>
> Since quasi-teaching somebody a language via email and such is not real
> high on many people's list of fun things to do, I'll also put in a request
> for any good online tutorials on doing Python. (And if the doc for portage
> still needs to be done once I've mastered it, I'll be willing to help.)

In short, sandbox replaces a number of glibc functions that concern the 
filesystem. Examples of those functions are: fopen, mkdir, link, rename, etc. 
All those functions are replaced with functions that check the place of the 
file in the filesystem, and based on certain environment variables deny or 
allow access to the functions. Because libsandbox.so is put in the 
/lib/ld.so.preload file, all programs run first load this libsandbox before 
anything else. This allows for the replacement of the glibc functions. BTW. 
electric fence for example does the same trick on different functions 
(malloc).

Paul

btw. I don't believe it is nescesarry to understand python to write ebuilds as 
they are written entirely in bash.

-- 
Paul de Vrieze
Junior Researcher
Mail: pauldv@cs.kun.nl
Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Mark Guertin]

On Wednesday 07 August 2002 23:11, Marius Bernklev wrote:
> > you can also look at:
> >
> > man 5 ebuild
>
> ...which is in dire need of updating.  As is the howto on http.

Does that mean you're volunteering? :P

Mark

RE: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Sean P. Kane]

I'd also be interested in hearing about any really good Python
tutorials/books for people coming at it fresh and with a very rusty
programming background...grin....

Thanks,
Sean


-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Lacour [mailto:gentoo-dev@clacour.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 21:10
To: Marius Bernklev; Mark Guertin
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds


On Wednesday 07 August 2002 18:17, Marius Bernklev wrote:
> Mark Guertin <gerk@gentoo.org> writes:
> > On Wednesday 07 August 2002 23:11, Marius Bernklev wrote:
> >> > you can also look at:
> >> > man 5 ebuild
> >> ...which is in dire need of updating.  As is the howto on http.
> > Does that mean you're volunteering? :P
>
> Oops.  Oh well, at least python is easy to read. :)
>
>
> Marius

_I'll_ volunteer to (re)write it, if someone will give me a boost up the

learning curve with Python.

I want to write some ebuilds myself, but I lack the time to figure out
Python 
cold.  I quit learning (most) new languages about the time
object-oriented 
proogramming started up. The explanations of OOP in the early days
were... 
cryptic? Obtuse? A tangled bunch of gobbledygook? Something in that
general 
direction...    Anyway, I wasn't working as a programmer, so I dropped
out of 
the "Language of the Month" club.

What I've seen of Python looks pretty easy, but there are some basic
concepts 
I don't have, and trying to reason backward to them from somebody else's
code 
hasn't worked too well.

I'd also like to get (and am willing to pay for with documentation of
same) 
an explanation of what exactly it is that sandbox does. (And probably a 
couple of other pieces of portage.)

I know it keeps things from messing with the real filesystem, but _how_,

specifically?  It's much harder to figure out why you're having a
problem 
with something when you have no idea what it's doing.

Since quasi-teaching somebody a language via email and such is not real
high 
on many people's list of fun things to do, I'll also put in a request
for any 
good online tutorials on doing Python. (And if the doc for portage still

needs to be done once I've mastered it, I'll be willing to help.)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Fredrik Jagenheim]

On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 09:09:46AM -0700, Sean P. Kane wrote:
> 
> I'd also be interested in hearing about any really good Python
> tutorials/books for people coming at it fresh and with a very rusty
> programming background...grin....

Well, it took me two seconds to find this:
http://www.python.org/doc/Newbies.html

I can't say if it's of any use though, since it I've only 
brushed the surface of Python myself.

//Humming, being more of a perl-person.

RE: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Sean P. Kane]

It took me only two seconds as well, but I was looking for some opinions
on quality and approachability.

Sean


-----Original Message-----
From: Fredrik Jagenheim [mailto:humming@pobox.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:33
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds


On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 09:09:46AM -0700, Sean P. Kane wrote:
> 
> I'd also be interested in hearing about any really good Python 
> tutorials/books for people coming at it fresh and with a very rusty 
> programming background...grin....

Well, it took me two seconds to find this:
http://www.python.org/doc/Newbies.html

I can't say if it's of any use though, since it I've only 
brushed the surface of Python myself.

//Humming, being more of a perl-person.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds

[Mike Brockman]

On 2002.08.17 00:28 Sean P. Kane wrote:
> It took me only two seconds as well, but I was looking for some
> opinions
> on quality and approachability.
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fredrik Jagenheim [mailto:humming@pobox.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:33
> To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Directory create in ebuilds
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 09:09:46AM -0700, Sean P. Kane wrote:
> >
> > I'd also be interested in hearing about any really good Python
> > tutorials/books for people coming at it fresh and with a very rusty
> > programming background...grin....
> 
> Well, it took me two seconds to find this:
> http://www.python.org/doc/Newbies.html
> 
> I can't say if it's of any use though, since it I've only
> brushed the surface of Python myself.
> 
> //Humming, being more of a perl-person.
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I can attest to the fact that all the documentation at 
http://www.python.org is most excellent.


Cheers,
Mike Brockman