[gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Francois Bles]

Hello,

First, I would thank you for this great dist. I find that gentoo is, 
with debian,
the best GNU/Linux distribution.

But I am a bit shocked not to see the "GNU/Linux" term on your site and on
dist, instead of just "Linux".

Statistic say that Linux himself represent only 2% of a dist, and GNU 
software 40%,
so it will be nice to be grateful to GNU project by saying "GNU/Linux" 
on your site
and documents.

Thanks

François Blès - kruskal@wazaah.homeunix.org

PS: sorry for my bad english

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Jean-Michel Smith]

On Monday 05 August 2002 08:06 pm, Gregg wrote:
> Not attempting to sound rude in any way, but I beleive my best response to
> this is; take your holy war somewhere else?

I agree.  The official stance should IMHO be that there are two 'official' 
names: Gentoo Linux and Gentoo GNU/Linux, and each user and developer is free 
to use the one they like the best.

This would especially be useful for people like me, who try to remember to say 
GNU/Linux out of respect for RMS's contribution, but often don't remember to. 
;-)

> This battle and the vi vs. emacs battle, they all just make me sick.

Well, it is a little more relevant than emacs v. vi.  Richard Stallman has 
requested that people refer to the entire software suite (all of the GNU 
tools plus the Linux kernel) as GNU/Linux rather than Linux, not so much to 
give his team credit (though they do deserve a great deal of credit, having 
written something like 90% of the core operating system), but to emphesize 
that there is a philosophy of freedom behind much of the source code that the 
FSF represents and promotes, whereas the more apolitical groups don't.

Having said all that, I think RMS is emphesizing that point a little too much, 
though, since as often as not discussions like this tend to touch on the 
concept of freedom he is trying to promote, mayble I'm wrong about that.

In any event, I agree that the argument doesn't belong here, which is why I 
suggest the dual naming convention.  Hell, we license enough software under 
dual licenses to make the licenses compatible, why not dual name the distro 
to make the naming conventions compatible. :-)

Anyway, Linux or GNU/Linux, by any name, still represents Software Freedom and 
Software Excellence to most of us, and that is what really counts IMHO.

Jean.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Gregg]

Not attempting to sound rude in any way, but I beleive my best response to
this is; take your holy war somewhere else?

This battle and the vi vs. emacs battle, they all just make me sick.

Gregg


> Hello,
>
> First, I would thank you for this great dist. I find that gentoo is,
> with debian,
> the best GNU/Linux distribution.
>
> But I am a bit shocked not to see the "GNU/Linux" term on your site and
> on dist, instead of just "Linux".
>
> Statistic say that Linux himself represent only 2% of a dist, and GNU
> software 40%,
> so it will be nice to be grateful to GNU project by saying "GNU/Linux"
> on your site
> and documents.
>
> Thanks
>
> François Blès - kruskal@wazaah.homeunix.org
>
> PS: sorry for my bad english
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Matthew Kennedy]

This is just my own opinion as a user...

It really does matter to some, including myself. I direct you to the
Debian mail archives for the reasons why "GNU/" is correct :-) Plus it
would be cool if newbies stopped asking me "Where can I download Linux
7.3?" and getting my stock, but confusing response, "You can get Linux
from ftp.kernel.org"

Besides... it's possible portage might be portable to other
architectures, maybe including Hurd etc. later on. What then? Is it
really that Linux-specific then?

Matt

On Mon, 2002-08-05 at 20:06, Gregg wrote:
> Not attempting to sound rude in any way, but I beleive my best response to
> this is; take your holy war somewhere else?
> 
> This battle and the vi vs. emacs battle, they all just make me sick.
> 
> Gregg
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > First, I would thank you for this great dist. I find that gentoo is,
> > with debian,
> > the best GNU/Linux distribution.
> >
> > But I am a bit shocked not to see the "GNU/Linux" term on your site and
> > on dist, instead of just "Linux".
> >
> > Statistic say that Linux himself represent only 2% of a dist, and GNU
> > software 40%,
> > so it will be nice to be grateful to GNU project by saying "GNU/Linux"
> > on your site
> > and documents.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > François Blès - kruskal@wazaah.homeunix.org
> >
> > PS: sorry for my bad english
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > gentoo-dev mailing list
> > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> > http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Marko Mikulicic]

Matthew Kennedy wrote:
> This is just my own opinion as a user...
> 
> It really does matter to some, including myself. I direct you to the
> Debian mail archives for the reasons why "GNU/" is correct :-) Plus it
> would be cool if newbies stopped asking me "Where can I download Linux
> 7.3?" and getting my stock, but confusing response, "You can get Linux
> from ftp.kernel.org"

But why don't call it Gentoo Apache/Trolltech/BSD/KDE/GNU Linux ;-p
Just kidding. I think we don't need such debates, because this
distro will never be for newbies (or at list this is by humile opinion), 
they
will be more happy with SuSe or Mandrake. People who know something
about linux will know what's the GNU thing and will see that
Gentoo Linux is something concrete as opposed to Gentoo Hurd, for example,
wich is a set of software organized by a team of people and choosen, patched
and grouped together to make a complete system for a given platform.
  The fact that it is 80% GNU doesn't mean nothing, because GNU is not
the platform (since GNU runs on slowaris, windows, hurd, linux, BSDs,...).
  Don't get me wrong; I think that sometimes GNU/Linux is correct, but this
doesn't mean that you have to call it always this way.

> 
> Besides... it's possible portage might be portable to other
> architectures, maybe including Hurd etc. later on. What then? Is it
> really that Linux-specific then?

I would like to try to make a Gentoo Hurd (genthurd ? :-)  when
the next stable release (december ?).
  The debian project makes also Debian Hurd; why Gentoo couldn't
also use a different kernel? Sure there are big differences, but on
a relatively little code base in the core packages and in startup scripts.
  I think the portage system will be of great help for Hurd, because
it's easier to update software from sources than to expect to have binary
packages for a plaform which is not so popular yet, but most sources compile
out of the box.
  Remember you all download big part of the "Unix/Posix" interface of Hurd
every time you build glibc :-) (glibc is full of Hurd "hacks", hurd is 
the kernel
of GNU and glibc is also GNU...)

Does anyone here had experience with hurd? I installed an old
debian hurd, and I had hard time trying to recompile everything a most
recent version.
  Could gentoo's portage could be used for Hurd ?
What parts of gentoo do you think must be changed in order
to run in a muti-server microkernel based system, with fancy thinks
like "translators" (instead of mount, ...). Only the bootstrap or there is
something more, and less obvious than this?

Marko

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Mickey Mullin]

GNU/Linux is the proper, correct form for refering to the operating system we
all know and love.  However, it's more difficult to say, 44% longer to type, and
much less cuddly.  (Okay, that last part is pure opinion.)

I rarely call LA, California, "Los Angeles," let alone "El Pueblo de Nuestra
Señora la Reina de los Angeles del Río de Porciúncula" (its real, full name),
nor do you see that on I-5 going into LA.

There's the "real" name, then there's what people call it.

"Linux," today, really means "GNU/Linux."  I know no one who runs a Linux kernel
with MS Visual C++ to compile software.

I don't mean to offend, but my opinion is that this sort of energy is better
spent on the very worthy causes at eff.org, rather than prolonging
quasi-political discussions to a development mailing list.  (Or maybe at
alt.fsf.vs.oss - which doesn't exist but probably should. ;)

Mickey

On 06.08.2002 at 11:13:38, Matthew Kennedy <mbkennedy@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> This is just my own opinion as a user...
> 
> It really does matter to some, including myself. I direct you to the
> Debian mail archives for the reasons why "GNU/" is correct :-) Plus it
> would be cool if newbies stopped asking me "Where can I download Linux
> 7.3?" and getting my stock, but confusing response, "You can get Linux
> from ftp.kernel.org"
> 
> Besides... it's possible portage might be portable to other
> architectures, maybe including Hurd etc. later on. What then? Is it
> really that Linux-specific then?
> 
> Matt
> 
> On Mon, 2002-08-05 at 20:06, Gregg wrote:
> > Not attempting to sound rude in any way, but I beleive my best response to
> > this is; take your holy war somewhere else?
> > 
> > This battle and the vi vs. emacs battle, they all just make me sick.
> > 
> > Gregg
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > First, I would thank you for this great dist. I find that gentoo is,
> > > with debian,
> > > the best GNU/Linux distribution.
> > >
> > > But I am a bit shocked not to see the "GNU/Linux" term on your site and
> > > on dist, instead of just "Linux".
> > >
> > > Statistic say that Linux himself represent only 2% of a dist, and GNU
> > > software 40%,
> > > so it will be nice to be grateful to GNU project by saying "GNU/Linux"
> > > on your site
> > > and documents.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > François Blès - kruskal@wazaah.homeunix.org
> > >
> > > PS: sorry for my bad english

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Klaus-J. Wolf]

Mickey Mullin wrote:
> "Linux," today, really means "GNU/Linux."  I know no one who runs a Linux kernel
> with MS Visual C++ to compile software.

But there is a way of using the Linux kernel and BSD (also free) 
userland tools. Some folks are working on that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Jean-Michel Smith]

On Wednesday 07 August 2002 01:30 am, Klaus-J. Wolf wrote:
> Mickey Mullin wrote:
> > "Linux," today, really means "GNU/Linux."  I know no one who runs a Linux
> > kernel with MS Visual C++ to compile software.
>
> But there is a way of using the Linux kernel and BSD (also free)
> userland tools. Some folks are working on that.

That seems like an awful lot of work just to avoid typing 4 characters (or 
speaking one syllable alloud).

I still think the best compromise is to have dual official names, or to drop 
Linux from the name entirely.  I.e. ether

Gentoo

OR

Gentoo GNU/Linux concurrent with Gentoo Linux.

Both sides of the debate have valid points.  When I remember to, I tend to 
call it GNU/Linux out of respect for Richard Stallman's contribution 
(contributing 90% of the core operating system is nothing to sneeze at, and 
the plethora of third party stuff running on top of that simply underscores 
the value of that contribution.   Spider's point WRT Python and Gentoo 
specifically is a good one given portage's dependence on it, but as for KDE, 
etc. none of that can even remotely be considered a core part of the 
operating system, so that portion of the argument misses the point entirely 
IMHO) and out of respect for RMSes wishes, but even Richard Stallman makes it 
quite clear that everyone is FREE to do as they wish, and that includes 
disregarding his wishes and calling it "Linux" (he stated that specifically 
in a speech he gave at the University of Chicago regarding Free Software).  
Hardly something a raving fanatic would say, is it?

In the spirit of that Freedom why not accept that kind of compromise (either 
dual naming the distro or dropping the word Linux entirely), and let people 
use whichever name suits them best?  Yes, there will be the zealots (on both 
sides of the argument) who will insist that it is their way or the highway, 
but I think the vast majority of people on either side could live with either 
compromise just fine.

All that been said, whatever the distro is called, I'll call it GNU/Linux when 
I remember, and Linux when I forget (which is probably most common).  Like 
most things, the name isn't nearly as important as the underlying freedom, 
and the whole GNU/Linux v. Linux thing seems to forget that sometimes, much 
like the Republicans do when they try to amend the US constitution to ban 
flag burning, forgetting entirely about the freedoms for which the flag is 
merely a symbol.

Jean.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Alexander Gretencord]

On Wednesday 07 August 2002 13:36, Jean-Michel Smith wrote:
> In the spirit of that Freedom why not accept that kind of compromise
> (either dual naming the distro or dropping the word Linux entirely)

So if you take Hurd as the kernel, you could just name it Gentoo GNU as Hurd 
is GNU too :)

And why not let drobbins choose his own name. You can name your ditribution 
all the way _you_ want to name it. It doesn't matter what the kernel is or 
what the basic software like libc and utils like mount come from if he 
chooses to call it after the Kernel it's running let him do that.

If you make a live CD with nothing but a kernel, XFree and openoffice, to show 
other ppl openoffice, you can call it "OpenOffice Demo XYZ" without 
mentioning the Kernel and XFree in the name although without it the whole 
damn thing won't run.

> but I think the vast majority of people on either side could live with
> either compromise just fine.

And quite a lot just don't care what it's called anyway but care about what's 
in and how it works.


Alex
-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety 
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Jean-Michel Smith]

On Wednesday 07 August 2002 07:20 am, Alexander Gretencord wrote:

> And why not let drobbins choose his own name. You can name your ditribution
> all the way _you_ want to name it. It doesn't matter what the kernel is or
> what the basic software like libc and utils like mount come from if he
> chooses to call it after the Kernel it's running let him do that.

Well, if you want to fall back to an appeal to authority that is your 
decision, but my understanding of this entire discussion is that there is a 
desire to reach a consensus on this sort of thing.  Otherwise, why even talk 
about it?

Clearly there are two groups, bitterly divided on this one minor point but 
otherwise united in their enthusiasm with respect to Linux in general and 
Gentoo in particular.  It seems silly to have free software enthusiasts 
bickering over this point, especially if there is an easy solution that would 
satisfy all but the most extreme zealots on either side.

My compromise is an effort to bridge that division, by having two very similar 
names (one with and one without the GNU), and a defacto notion that Linux is 
an abbreviation for GNU/Linux in much the same way LA is an abbreviation for 
whatever that gawdauful long name for Los Angeles really is.

> > but I think the vast majority of people on either side could live with
> > either compromise just fine.
>
> And quite a lot just don't care what it's called anyway but care about
> what's in and how it works.

Yes, and I fall into that group as well.  But clearly a lot of people DO care, 
so if their is a straightforward and easy way to address the issue and bridge 
these differences, why not consider it?

Jean.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Alexander Gretencord]

On Wednesday 07 August 2002 14:38, Jean-Michel Smith wrote:
> Well, if you want to fall back to an appeal to authority that is your
> decision, but my understanding of this entire discussion is that there is a
> desire to reach a consensus on this sort of thing.  Otherwise, why even
> talk about it?

I don't know why everyone is talking about it when there is no real problem 
(as you can freely choose any name). If the devs decide to officially name it 
"Gentoo GNU/Linux" let em do it otherwise don't bother anyone. I always say 
"Gentoo" anyway, ppl know that I'm into Linux :)

> Clearly there are two groups, bitterly divided on this one minor point but
> otherwise united in their enthusiasm with respect to Linux in general and
> Gentoo in particular.  It seems silly to have free software enthusiasts
> bickering over this point, especially if there is an easy solution that
> would satisfy all but the most extreme zealots on either side.

ACK

> Yes, and I fall into that group as well.  But clearly a lot of people DO
> care, so if their is a straightforward and easy way to address the issue
> and bridge these differences, why not consider it?

Well for some ppl now that someone tried to push the GNU/ part onto Gentoo 
it's this kind of "no, not after this" feeling :) This doesn't bring us 
anywhere it's not the users decision anyway.

Alex

-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety 
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Fredrik Jagenheim]

On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 02:57:14PM +0200, Alexander Gretencord wrote:
> 
> Well for some ppl now that someone tried to push the GNU/ part onto Gentoo 
> it's this kind of "no, not after this" feeling :) This doesn't bring us 
> anywhere it's not the users decision anyway.
> 

Oh, but let's make it a users decision. I propose a new flag in USE
that will let the user name the system 'GNU/Linux' or 'Linux' or
'Gentoo GNU/Linux, the best dist for politically correct power users'.

Now, let's flame over what the default should be. ;)

No, I'm not serious. Unless it's about code.

//Humming, pondering if he's naming it GNU/Linux because he used GNU
tools to build it, should he then name his Great Novel after the
typewriter? ;)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Marko Mikulicic]

Fredrik Jagenheim wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 02:57:14PM +0200, Alexander Gretencord wrote:
> 
>>Well for some ppl now that someone tried to push the GNU/ part onto Gentoo 
>>it's this kind of "no, not after this" feeling :) This doesn't bring us 
>>anywhere it's not the users decision anyway.
>>
> 
> 
> Oh, but let's make it a users decision. I propose a new flag in USE
> that will let the user name the system 'GNU/Linux' or 'Linux' or
> 'Gentoo GNU/Linux, the best dist for politically correct power users'.
> 
> Now, let's flame over what the default should be. ;)
> 
> No, I'm not serious. Unless it's about code.
> 
> //Humming, pondering if he's naming it GNU/Linux because he used GNU
> tools to build it, should he then name his Great Novel after the
> typewriter? ;)

Since at the heat of a novel there is always a bunch of words
then one should call his novel: Word. (or Verb, Noun, Sentence, Meaning) :-)

  I think the problem is that Linux is not like "Windows", or "Macintosh":
it is not the name of a product, but of a kernel. It's not about tools here
but about a product name. I don't care about GNU/Linux, or Linux, but
I have noticed that many users (newbies) are confused with all this Linux
7.2/8.2/6.4 Suse/RedHat/blabla. They associate the number with the
version and the "distribution" also with some kind of version (like XP).
  IMHO it should be more correct to say just "Gentoo" when talking
about the disto, "Gentoo linux" when talking to Linux (kernel) specific
issues of Gentoo (like Gentoo/SPARC or PPC for hw platform issues),
  but now it's too late :-) none will think of Linux just of a kernel 
because
it is the symbol of the entire set of gnu an non-gnu software which we all
use. I think that the problem will be more real when some distro (I hope 
gentoo will)
will try to use Hurd or some bsd kernel as an alternative; then it will 
be important
to state Gentoo Linux, as opposed to Gentoo freebsd or Gentoo Hurd.

Marko

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Jean-Michel Smith]

On Wednesday 07 August 2002 10:43 am, Fredrik Jagenheim wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 02:57:14PM +0200, Alexander Gretencord wrote:
> > Well for some ppl now that someone tried to push the GNU/ part onto
> > Gentoo it's this kind of "no, not after this" feeling :) This doesn't
> > bring us anywhere it's not the users decision anyway.
>
> Oh, but let's make it a users decision. I propose a new flag in USE
> that will let the user name the system 'GNU/Linux' or 'Linux' or
> 'Gentoo GNU/Linux, the best dist for politically correct power users'.
>
> Now, let's flame over what the default should be. ;)

heh!

Well, if we were to dual name the distro

Gentoo GNU/Linux
and
Gentoo Linux

the the default is whatever the individual user happens to use (probably the 
latter, since that is the habit most of us are in).  We could even code up a 
little random number generator that chooses one or the other randomly, or 
displays both but chooses the order randomly, etc.  :-)

My interest in this isn't what the offical name(s) end up being ... just to 
see the conflict go away as best it can.

Jean.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Klaus-J. Wolf]

My personal opinion is, wouldn't there be a guy like RMS, there 
shouldn't be any hesitation in declaring everything part of the GNU project.

But as long as anybody's software is part of a campaign against 
everything which is not GNU, I have big problems with it.



Fredrik Jagenheim wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 02:57:14PM +0200, Alexander Gretencord wrote:
> 
>>Well for some ppl now that someone tried to push the GNU/ part onto Gentoo 
>>it's this kind of "no, not after this" feeling :) This doesn't bring us 
>>anywhere it's not the users decision anyway.
>>
> 
> 
> Oh, but let's make it a users decision. I propose a new flag in USE
> that will let the user name the system 'GNU/Linux' or 'Linux' or
> 'Gentoo GNU/Linux, the best dist for politically correct power users'.
> 
> Now, let's flame over what the default should be. ;)
> 
> No, I'm not serious. Unless it's about code.
> 
> //Humming, pondering if he's naming it GNU/Linux because he used GNU
> tools to build it, should he then name his Great Novel after the
> typewriter? ;)
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Jean-Michel Smith]

On Wednesday 07 August 2002 11:08 am, Klaus-J. Wolf wrote:
> My personal opinion is, wouldn't there be a guy like RMS, there
> shouldn't be any hesitation in declaring everything part of the GNU
> project.

You should actually go read RMSes comments on the subject, and listen to one 
or more of the speaches he has given on the subject (you can find them online 
in various places, usually in mp3 or ogg format).

Not to belabor this (I don't care what the system is called, and I don't want 
to get put in the position of arguing in favor the the GNU/ prefix, but this 
sort of outright misinformation is becoming annoying), but...

1) RMS isn't saying everything should be a part of the GNU project
2) He is asking that the prefix be used because (currently) something like 90% 
of the core OS is GNU software, and he wants to get the word out about the 
GNU project to those who otherwise won't hear of it, not for personal 
aggrandizement but to pitch his 'software freedom' campaign (though he 
doesn't call it that)
3) he isn't demanding anything, his is requesting a courtesy which he, 
himself, is at pains to emphesize everyone is free to embrace or reject as 
they see fit (he has stated that in more than one speech explicity, though 
he'll argue passionately why we should embrace his point of view)
4) he isn't saying that by using the GNU prefix one is suddenly declaring 
their distro a part of the GNU project

> But as long as anybody's software is part of a campaign against
> everything which is not GNU, I have big problems with it.

5) this has got to be the most egregious misrepresentation of the facts I've 
seen.  RMS, the FSF, and AFAIK no one no the planet is engaged in any kind of 
"campaign against everything which is not GNU."  Where on earth did you come 
up with that stuff?

In any event, since that characterization is demonstrably false, can I assume 
that means, in light of this correction, you have no problem with his GNU/ 
prefix request?

Frankly, as one who doesn't care one way or the other, 'anti-GNU/' rants like 
this are coming off as far more zealous than any of the pro-GNU/ requests 
I've seen to date (including the less-than-diplomatic one posted to this 
list).

I would encourage you to actually listen to RMS, and not his opponents 
characterizations of his words.  Your comment sounds very much like something 
I would have said, before I'd heard RMS speak myself, and back when my view 
of the man was tainted by his 'lignux' diatribe in USENET of 7 years ago.  
Judge the man, and his views, on the basis of what he does and says today (or 
within the last couple of years), not on the basis of a flame fest seven or 
eight years ago.  Unless, of course, you'd like to also be judged on the 
basis of things you've said and done almost a decade ago ... I know I 
certainly wouldn't want that for myself ;-).

I don't give a damn whether Linux is called Linux, Gentoo, GNU/Linux, GNUs Not 
Lignux, or Billy Bob's Mondo Penguin OS, but these ad homonem attacks against 
RMS, to whome all of us owe some debt of gratitude whether we like it or not, 
particularly when such attacks are based upon flagrantly incorrect 
information if not outright disinformation, need to be countered, and 
vehemently so.

Jean.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Rigo]

Op wo 07-08-2002, om 17:43 schreef Fredrik Jagenheim:
> On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 02:57:14PM +0200, Alexander Gretencord wrote:
> > 
> > Well for some ppl now that someone tried to push the GNU/ part onto Gentoo 
> > it's this kind of "no, not after this" feeling :) This doesn't bring us 
> > anywhere it's not the users decision anyway.
> > 
> 
> Oh, but let's make it a users decision. I propose a new flag in USE
> that will let the user name the system 'GNU/Linux' or 'Linux' or
> 'Gentoo GNU/Linux, the best dist for politically correct power users'.

I kinda like that idea...

> 
> Now, let's flame over what the default should be. ;)

 :-D !

> 
> No, I'm not serious. Unless it's about code.
> 
> //Humming, pondering if he's naming it GNU/Linux because he used GNU
> tools to build it, should he then name his Great Novel after the
> typewriter? ;)
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev

RE: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...

[Sean P. Kane]

Why not.....Hey, maybe you could just set the name to whatever you want
(maybe prepended by "Gentoo")

Gentoo Linux
Gentoo GNU/Linux
Gentoo Windows 3000
Gentoo Bleeding Edge Linux
Gentoo is better then RedHat....


Sean


-----Original Message-----
From: Rigo [mailto:rigo@home.nl] 
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 08:52
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name...


Op wo 07-08-2002, om 17:43 schreef Fredrik Jagenheim:
> On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 02:57:14PM +0200, Alexander Gretencord wrote:
> > 
> > Well for some ppl now that someone tried to push the GNU/ part onto 
> > Gentoo
> > it's this kind of "no, not after this" feeling :) This doesn't bring
us 
> > anywhere it's not the users decision anyway.
> > 
> 
> Oh, but let's make it a users decision. I propose a new flag in USE 
> that will let the user name the system 'GNU/Linux' or 'Linux' or 
> 'Gentoo GNU/Linux, the best dist for politically correct power users'.

I kinda like that idea...

> 
> Now, let's flame over what the default should be. ;)

 :-D !

> 
> No, I'm not serious. Unless it's about code.
> 
> //Humming, pondering if he's naming it GNU/Linux because he used GNU 
> tools to build it, should he then name his Great Novel after the 
> typewriter? ;)
> 
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