From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_NONE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, NICE_REPLY_A autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from vsmtp.wi.securepipe.com (vsmtp.wi.securepipe.com [64.73.37.228]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 83F40AC3FB for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:14:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 13049 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2002 15:14:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO agamemnon.wi.securepipe.com) (64.73.37.245) by 0 with SMTP; 24 Jul 2002 15:14:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:14:57 -0500 From: Jon Nelson To: Tom Philbrick Cc: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Automatic menus? Message-Id: <20020724101457.13c4988c.jnelson@jamponi.net> In-Reply-To: <20020724150806.GA5414@wickidpisa.csh.rit.edu> References: <20020724150806.GA5414@wickidpisa.csh.rit.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.0 (GTK+ 1.2.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: a63d19f1-2d86-4972-9501-556d3ca4765b X-Archives-Hash: d4d139e0bc629fdf3e2f114e8e17ba45 All I can say is: You the Man. It's been on my List of things TO DO. [I have a very long, getting longer-every-day, list]. Make available what you've got to us, or send it to me, and I'll make it available, etc... Thanks, and let's take a look! On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:08:06 -0400 Tom Philbrick wrote: > Searching the mailing list archives, I see that back in April > someone asked about automatic menus. One reply said that it was > already being worked on, while others said the opposite. Is > anyone currently working on an automatic menu system for > gentoo, and if so, what is its status? > > I ask because I am in the process of porting the debian menu > system over to gentoo, but I realized I should stop and see if > it is worth the effort. I have the program working as far as I > can tell, although I haven't done much testing yet. It still > needs a lot of work, but most of that is tailoring it to gentoo > rather than debian (rewriting documentation, and making my > hacks less of a hack). The build isn't pretty, I see now why > debian is not a source distro, but it works for now and I'm > working on cleaning it up. > > For those of you that have never used debian (or mandrake, as > menudrake uses the debian menu system under the hood) you can > read a good overview of it at: > http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/index.html > > For the system to work, it would require that every package > that wants to use a menu must install a menu-method that > describes how to generate a menu for that program (these can me > borrowed from debian, or written from scratch). It also would > require that every application that wanted to be in a menu > include a simple menu file that describes what the menu entry > should be. Yes that means a lot of packages would need to be > updated, but the menufiles take about 30 seconds to write, and > are simple enough for anyone to do. > > So what should I do? Post a new package bug now? Wait until it > is completely done? Wait until a better time? Give up in favor > of a more mature, or better, solution? -- Jon Nelson Just because it's not broken doesn't mean we can't take it apart.