From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_NXDOMAIN, DMARC_MISSING,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA820ABBC8 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 03:02:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17WBf7-0008Re-00 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:01:53 +0200 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17WBf7-0008RP-00 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:01:53 +0200 Path: localhost!nobody From: Mark Gordon Newsgroups: gmane.linux.gentoo.devel Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:46:01 +0100 Organization: Not very often Message-ID: <20020721084601.5295f6ee.spamtrap@ruddygore.net> References: <000b01c22fbd$231f1840$0a00a8c0@elric> <002701c22fe0$453869e0$6401a8c0@internal.lan> <200207202357.13941.verwilst@gentoo.org> <3D39E0FF.9030604@seul.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.19.79.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027238513 32450 212.19.79.226 (21 Jul 2002 08:01:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 08:01:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Sylpheed version 0.7.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: I am not a touch typest. Wish I were. Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 7e049f32-b6b7-4d2b-b473-88badf38919d X-Archives-Hash: c256491b2f69bf4152b88496543f1021 On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 00:15:27 +0200 Marko Mikulicic wrote: > Bart Verwilst wrote: > > We're working on a graphical installer... > > I'm planning to make it easier to install than Windows :) > > Ofcourse this will be optional, and the current install will always be > > available, and that's a garantee! :o) > > > > PS: This is a calling to everybody interessed, if you have ideas, drawings > > from the layout, you're a talented graphics dude, or something, don't > > hesitate to email me directly, we can use some help on this one :) > > What I like from the current handcrafted installation is that > you see what is going on and you see that the installation is not a > magical expert only thing, but just the matter of copying the files > on a mounted filesystem. I like to install gentoo on machines running > another distro or another gentoo disk because I can still use the > machine and I have a more confortable environment where partitioning the > disk etc. > I think that there are some tasks which could be useful even for > "experts": Have all the commands and their output sent to a file so you can do a tail -f on it from another console or examine it in more detail if anything goes wrong. > 1) aided partitioning. I thought of having a file describing the > partition structure (proplist, xml, whatever is easy to write and > process with a (python?) script) fstypes and mount points. > Then a script would take this file and make the partitions, create > the filesystems, and output a fstab, to be copied in the newly created etc. > I like to think of it as a text file, but it would be nice if > the optional graphical installation could share the same format for > storing user configuration, before doing the job, so that users > can decide which parts of the graphical installation are useful (or just > doing all auto if he wishes). > I wanting to help writing this one, if you need help. If you are doing this make it a format easy to write by hand. Possible the same as the fstab format with the required partition size added to the end of the line with 0 meaning the rest of the disk. > 2) device probing. I think it should be good if the graphical install > (better than windows :-) would well divided from the logic that does > device autodetection, so that users which doesn't want gfx install can > also benefit from its detections. For example, once I needed to > configure a asus ISDN card but I didn't know that asus was only the name > on the box, and the cards was totaly incompatible with asus driver. > Mandrake probed the device and configured correctly (or at least told > me the chipset) (btw. lspci -> unknown). Use the hotplug scripts to find the kernel modules required? After all, why have yet another list of how to identify each card. -- Mark Gordon