From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_NONE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, NICE_REPLY_A autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from Darkmere.psychozone (foo.stahl.nu [194.18.231.27]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6D5AC4EC for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Darkmere.psychozone (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Darkmere.psychozone (Postfix) with SMTP id 19EA859803 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:38:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 23:38:19 +0200 From: Spider To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposition for stage3. Message-Id: <20020618233819.6c1705f3.spider@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20020618154800.41276e24.rufiao@gmx.net> References: <3D0F573D.3010306@telefragged.com> <200206181822.19840.verwilst@gentoo.org> <200206181841.41009.wigren@home.se> <20020618154800.41276e24.rufiao@gmx.net> Organization: Chaotic X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.8 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=.E/336h2I67iZ?=" Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: dc9c5dd3-fe90-4154-9a5e-7725a8aac2df X-Archives-Hash: 015b0a3929b286ad7c1eb6221fdc2512 --=.E/336h2I67iZ?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin quote On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:48:00 -0300 Rufiao wrote: > > I haven't build a whole system using that yet. Any packages break > specifically because of this flag? > > Per Wigren [Tue 18-Jun-2002 18:41 GMT+0200]: > > -fomit-frame-pointer often gives a noticable speedup also... I will personally slay the person to include this in the default system, as -any- bug found at a higher level in the chain will be rendered completely undebuggable if glibc or other library that it links uses this, The initial speedup is trivial for things such as the basesystem, and to simply ignore all bugreports from a person who uses it is quite a valid proposition as far as I'm concerned. Why the strong feelings about it? bugreports are quite vital to our QA and future survival, and to our users if they ever want to try anything even remotely unstable, or development (face it, quite a few do), and the amount of trouble this flag generates further down the line is immense. Yes, you can leave it as a suggestion if you wish, though it should be noted that "this will break all debugging and render all bugreports useless, as well as it may introduce odd crashes which will not be traceable" , But it should -not- be thought of as an default alternative. Better for defaults would be -fno-exceptions for C++ and C code, although this also breaks code, but more noticable in most cases. //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end --=.E/336h2I67iZ?= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9D6hMZS9CZTi033kRAtSJAJ0ekomSHB4qJpnROEfveqK08VzbawCfXspH NKUiJxReRwR2gvXG4CgyTNg= =8KhE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.E/336h2I67iZ?=--