[gentoo-dev] [ANN] Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ)

[gentoo-dev] [ANN] Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ)

[Mecho Puh]

Hi gyus,
I just started Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ):
URL: http://gentoo.zhware.net/fuq.html

It contain some FAQs not included in the official Gentoo FAQ, but
discussed in the newsgroups and mailing lists. It is just a try to
thanks to people, helping us every day.

Fell free to contribute ;)

Best Regards,
Stoyan Zhekov <zhware [AT] hotpop [DOT] com>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ)

[Markus Brischke]

Quoting Mecho Puh (mecho@web.de):
> Hi gyus,
> I just started Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ):
> URL: http://gentoo.zhware.net/fuq.html
> 
> It contain some FAQs not included in the official Gentoo FAQ, but
> discussed in the newsgroups and mailing lists. It is just a try to
> thanks to people, helping us every day.
> 
> Fell free to contribute ;)
> 
> Best Regards,
> Stoyan Zhekov <zhware [AT] hotpop [DOT] com>

Thank you. There are some interesting answers :) e.g. that i have to
install gentoolkit for qpkg.

Another (yet unanswered) question for myself could be:

How can i manage my own ebuildfiles/packages without destroying them by (r)sync?

I am looking for an elegant way to manage my (own) testingpackages and
packages which are not part of gentoo yet :) Any clues?

Markus Brischke

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ)

[Cedric Veilleux]

Hi,

   There are probably may ways to achieve this, but what I prefer is to create 
a portage tree in my home directory with my ebuilds. Something like
portage/distfiles/somepackage.tar.gz
portage/net-mail/qmail-hack/qmail-hack-1.0.ebuild
...

Then all I have to do is "tar xzf myports.tar.gz portage" and then I can 
distribute the tarball or extract it in my own portage tree. I don't care if 
an emerge --clean rsync deletes it since I can easily re-extract it later..


Cedric



On June 14, 2002 08:58 am, Markus Brischke wrote:
> Quoting Mecho Puh (mecho@web.de):
> > Hi gyus,
> > I just started Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ):
> > URL: http://gentoo.zhware.net/fuq.html
> >
> > It contain some FAQs not included in the official Gentoo FAQ, but
> > discussed in the newsgroups and mailing lists. It is just a try to
> > thanks to people, helping us every day.
> >
> > Fell free to contribute ;)
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Stoyan Zhekov <zhware [AT] hotpop [DOT] com>
>
> Thank you. There are some interesting answers :) e.g. that i have to
> install gentoolkit for qpkg.
>
> Another (yet unanswered) question for myself could be:
>
> How can i manage my own ebuildfiles/packages without destroying them by
> (r)sync?
>
> I am looking for an elegant way to manage my (own) testingpackages and
> packages which are not part of gentoo yet :) Any clues?
>
> Markus Brischke
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ)

[Markus Brischke]

Quoting Cedric Veilleux (cedric@neopeak.com):
> Hi,
> 
>    There are probably may ways to achieve this, but what I prefer is to create 
> a portage tree in my home directory with my ebuilds. Something like
> portage/distfiles/somepackage.tar.gz
> portage/net-mail/qmail-hack/qmail-hack-1.0.ebuild
> ...
> 
> Then all I have to do is "tar xzf myports.tar.gz portage" and then I can 
> distribute the tarball or extract it in my own portage tree. I don't care if 
> an emerge --clean rsync deletes it since I can easily re-extract it later..

Thanks for your answer. That is a possible solution, but i think it's
not really elegant, because you keep the same data twice. Also if you
have the "master" ebuildfiles in your home and you do a change you have
always to copy the into the portage tree.

In a first view i thought about making similar symlinks. But that is not
elegant either. What i will soon test is to put the official tree into a
special directory and only this one will be synced. I will soon comment
this :)

Thanks for all

Markus

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ)

[Francisco Gimeno]

> Thanks for your answer. That is a possible solution, but i think it's
> not really elegant, because you keep the same data twice. Also if you
> have the "master" ebuildfiles in your home and you do a change you have
> always to copy the into the portage tree.
> 
> In a first view i thought about making similar symlinks. But that is not
> elegant either. What i will soon test is to put the official tree into a
> special directory and only this one will be synced. I will soon comment
> this :)
You can use ebuild file merge

so, you can put your ebuilds files where you want.

Slt

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ)

[Grant Goodyear]

> Another (yet unanswered) question for myself could be:
> 
> How can i manage my own ebuildfiles/packages without destroying them by (r)sync?
> 
> I am looking for an elegant way to manage my (own) testingpackages and
> packages which are not part of gentoo yet :) Any clues?

Yep.  Take a look at the FAQ; I just added your question and a
moderately detailed answer.

-g2boojum-

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ)

[Markus Brischke]

Quoting Grant Goodyear (g2boojum@gentoo.org):
> > Another (yet unanswered) question for myself could be:
> > 
> > How can i manage my own ebuildfiles/packages without destroying them by (r)sync?
> > 
> > I am looking for an elegant way to manage my (own) testingpackages and
> > packages which are not part of gentoo yet :) Any clues?
> 
> Yep.  Take a look at the FAQ; I just added your question and a
> moderately detailed answer.

Thanks. Using cvs is one good method. I thought about a bit the problem.
Another solution is a symbolic link to the local directory given in
categories.

So it may be easy to do the following in the first step. Integrate local
in the "master" categories and set a symbolic link local. Then you can
use the rsynccommand with --safe-links (only if the directory behind
local is placed outside which is in this case the only logic).

This all is imho only a cludge. Imho we should think about how to
integrate userdefined ebuild-files more smoothly.

Ways doing this could be:
- Creating something like PORTAGE_PATH
- making a config file for categories in /etc and inherit all the
  different categories (problem is the outside PORTDIR thing. But i
  didn't understand why an ebuildfile explicitly defined fullpath must
  be inside PORTDIR (question for the faq? ;))).
- making a subdir prestine and syncing only this (but the
  categoriesproblem is still to be solved here).

But in this case i think cvs is the right answer, because making diffs
is more easy :)

Have fun.

Markus

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANN] Gentoo frequently unanswered questions (FUQ)

[Mecho Puh]

Rufiao wrote in gentoo-user:

 > Could you produce some kind of system to manage the (moderated) 
incorporation of
 > questions by users, as well as some kind of user contributed comments?

http://gentoo.zhware.net/wiki/
and maybe specially:
http://gentoo.zhware.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/FrequentlyUnansweredQuestions

You can ask there, put comments etc.

 >>
 >>Fell free to contribute ;)
 >>