From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_QUAR,FREEMAIL_FROM, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from tharkserver.tharknet.lotr (pD9E12FAF.dip.t-dialin.net [217.225.47.175]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CB7AC776 for ; Tue, 14 May 2002 12:07:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tharkun.tharknet.lotr (tharkun.tharknet.lotr [192.168.168.200]) by tharkserver.tharknet.lotr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F228B1EC60E for ; Tue, 14 May 2002 19:07:20 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Alexander Gretencord To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] reiserfs Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:07:20 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <23DFAA462CC6A64487613B0E242D9FF706EC65@mercury.phoenix-interactive.com> <200205141707.06913.arutha@gmx.de> <200205141039.19317.jsmith@kcco.com> In-Reply-To: <200205141039.19317.jsmith@kcco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200205141907.20610.arutha@gmx.de> Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 8ce3654e-1e62-4edc-adeb-30f5670b23d3 X-Archives-Hash: 6512e34225c7562d5e1115861b219d77 On Tuesday 14 May 2002 17:39, Jean-Michel Smith wrote: > Reiserfs is NOT ready for production use, and the gentoo FAQ is both wi= se > and friendly for pointing that out and guiding people away from that > particular folly. If you have such experiences it's ok to say so _but_ you have to say why = you=20 don't recommend reiserfs (or give a pointer to some place where your thes= is=20 is backed). I've not had any bad experience with ext2 on my workstation a= t=20 home so I'd say it's ok but at work on the latop after one crash I had to= do =20 a fsck'ing long fsck which then aborted and let me run the whole damn thi= ng=20 again manually. So after that I'd say ext2 sucks. But that may not be=20 apparent to someone else who has only had good exp like I had at home. So= he=20 won't believe me if all I say is "ext2 sucks dont use it it's unstable" > There are plenty of other, much safer filesystems to use, including XFS= (if > you don't need bleeding edge experimental features, e.g. can be happy w= ith > stock 2.4.18 kernel + xfs patches), JFS, ext3, ext2 (no journalling), a= nd > so forth. There are problems with those too. As said earlier (and Mark mentions it = too)=20 ext2 sucks :) I have no personal experience with JFS but the german compu= ter=20 magazine c't tested reiser, ext3, XFS and JFS lately and they had very=20 serious stability problems with JFS. So it's basically ext3 against XFS. = One=20 is a very intrusive patch and the other is ext2 + journaling which is fin= e if=20 you only need a journaling fs and don't care about other deficiencies of=20 ext2. > That having been said, there is a plethora of hard evidence as well as > anectdotal experiences to learn from, and to indicate that reiser reall= y > isn't a safe choice to be making. This is reflected in the gentoo > installation documentation, IMHO exactly as it should be. As said earlier, it's ok to tell the people that reiser is not stable in = your=20 opinion, but tell them _why_! That's my whole point, nothing about being=20 emotionally attached to reiser (tho I use it and am happy, but I also use= XFS=20 and am happy) Alex --=20 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary saf= ety=20 deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin