From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_NONE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from vestibule.its.caltech.edu (vestibule.its.caltech.edu [131.215.48.17]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4181EAC38F for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:33:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from groug.home.net (PPP-36-87.caltech.edu [131.215.36.87]) by vestibule.its.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00108 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: George Shapovalov To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] !!!Really worried about ebuild updates! Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:32:15 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <20020421195148.25f2202f.al3x@al3x.net> In-Reply-To: <20020421195148.25f2202f.al3x@al3x.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200204212032.15341.georges@its.caltech.edu> Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 9f247232-d139-41cf-8252-15217d4a4d0b X-Archives-Hash: 32f14b74511fc90dfc9e369626b7d9ea Couldn't be silent in the light of such plead :). On Sunday 21 April 2002 16:51, al3x payne wrote: > To whom it may concern: > > I'm really concerned about the number of ebuilds that are rapidly > becoming out of date. I started using Gentoo, in part, because of the I bet you started with gentoo in the pre-1.0 era ;). It is true that generally ebuilds are not getting much attention lately, = as=20 developers are hardly finding time to address bugs and other important is= sues=20 (now that gentoo user base significantly expanded in a very short time).=20 However ther is a hope :). We are currently looking at the ways to delega= te=20 part of the work on ebuild testing and updates to users (the trick is to = do=20 it preserving security and integrity of distribution). If you are interes= ted=20 you can take a look at: http://www.its.caltech.edu/~georges/gentoo/epsp/proposal.html for one of the solutions proposed (comments and suggestions are appreciat= ed!). You can also look through gentoo-dev archives (last few days), threads: "Improving stability - checkpoints" and some other related stuff for more= =20 discussion (even if not directly addressing this but related). However you should understand that resolving this situation will require = quite=20 dramatic rewamp of portage and thus will take some time (with security an= d=20 stability addressed first!). And, BTW the point made by Matthew Kennedy is an absolutely valid one! Yo= u=20 will save developers time by providing them with patches where you can in= =20 addition to bug reports. George