From: Gaarde <gaarde@yahoo.com>
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] making %95 of users happy
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:57:58 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020419175758.32718.qmail@web13306.mail.yahoo.com> (raw)
> Perhaps this will work itself out all by itself. When Gentoo 1.2 is
> released and the make.profile is changed to point at the default-1.2
> profile, the bleeding edgers can use that while the more conservative
> keep their link to 1.0 Thinking about it, this is probably the ultimate
> solution, its just not apparent right now since Gentoo is so young, and
> the only available option is to use the 1.0 profile. When there is a
> choice, the current version profile will be bleeding edge, while the
> previous version will only be updated with major fixes, and will become
> the "stable" release.
DISCLAIMER: I'm intentionally being rude... it helps convey my message.
*smile* I now return you to your regularly scheduled rant.
First and foremost, I agree with the person who stated the above %100.
Second, And I quote from the paragraph above, "its just not apparent right
now since Gentoo is so young, and the only available option is to use the 1.0
profile."
Being so young, the documentation, the sence of community, the code (albeit
in this case a 1.0 is quite nice. Kudos guys!), everything about the Gentoo
product is NOT AS MATURE AS MORE WIDELY DISTRIBUTED DISTRIBUTIONS! What does
7.2 mean to you? Or 8.1? What does 1.1 mean to you?
I guess some people just jumped head first into Gentoo without knowing what
they were getting into. (The middle of a development cycle... that just
never ends.)
Now, Consider the previous statement a direct *POKE* at the people I refer to
as lusers. Did they read the documentation? Did the read the part about
profiles? Did they bother to learn about profiles so they can start fixing
problems themselves and submit errors to http://bugs.gentoo.org ?? Do they
realize these collections of code known as packages are being written by
people NOT DEVELOPING GENTOO (some exceptions may apply)? Do they realize
the ebuild scripts, emerge, ebuild, the installer, initscripts, etc are what
Gentoo really is?
Admittedly profiles aren't as 'slick' as they could be... but some people
just need a reality check. [end of luser rant]
When you thinking about the 'Subject: ' field of this thread... How many
users are capable of being an effective Gentoo user? Who is the Gentoo
distributions target audience? Now if you consider the number of people in
that target audience vs the number of people who jumped head first into
Gentoo without knowing what they were getting into... %95 seems to me to be
about the right ratio. Admittedly I'm just guessing.
If you want to make those users falling into the middle of a never-ending
development cycle due to ignorance, the depenancy issue (aka DLL Hell) must
be able to be presented to lusers in a manner that lusers can deal with.
Preaching patience to those users will not get them to shut up. [end of
developer rant]
With all that being said... let the flames begin!
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next reply other threads:[~2002-04-19 17:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-04-19 17:57 Gaarde [this message]
2002-04-20 0:30 ` [gentoo-dev] making %95 of users happy John White
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-20 18:26 Gaarde
2002-04-18 12:25 Gaarde
2002-04-18 18:29 ` Todd Wright
2002-04-18 19:28 ` Stefan Boresch
2002-04-19 3:25 ` Fuper
2002-04-19 12:04 ` Todd Wright
2002-04-18 22:09 ` Sherman Boyd
2002-04-19 14:15 ` Fuper
2002-04-18 19:35 ` Terje Kvernes
2002-04-19 8:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-04-19 9:44 ` Terje Kvernes
2002-04-19 10:19 ` Einar Karttunen
2002-04-19 11:34 ` Mike Payson
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