From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_NONE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from chamber.cco.caltech.edu (chamber.cco.caltech.edu [131.215.48.55]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AA320AAE46 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:39:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from there (PPP-36-40.caltech.edu [131.215.36.40]) by chamber.cco.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13798 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 14:35:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203312235.OAA13798@chamber.cco.caltech.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: George Shapovalov To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo in the real world & utopia Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 14:33:12 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <3CB65ACE@dog.com> In-Reply-To: <3CB65ACE@dog.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 232ab23d-a92f-4c02-99ae-e1c704dbc5bc X-Archives-Hash: c2be3ee509ceb52a408d4831efea4f9b Hi Is this a troll or a start of a flame war? Please see below. On Sunday 31 March 2002 14:09, you wrote: > Here's a simple comparison: Gentoo has 1389 packages, and Debian has o= ver Cool, little bit more than month ago there were only close to 1000 :-).= I=20 guess you see what I mean. It grows, and grows rapidly both in package an= d=20 user count. It is so much easier to create ebuild. And it makes hot heads= =20 feel cool, allowing concerned people have all the control while automatyz= ing=20 routine tasks. Please read the web page for more blurb :-). > 3500. If this is true, I'd certainly rather have Debian, with apt-get, > unless there's some way you can get your Portage features to work on .d= eb > packages. Also, I can easily tell apt-get to only get free packages -- = free > as in freedom of speech, not free beer. (read: free as in GNU or Free > Software or GPL/LGPL'd open-source software) > > I like the idea of setting global configuration settings for a package > manager, but it just doesn't work with your current setup. Besides, I > don't have so many programs that I have trouble configuring them all. What if this is many systems that you need to maintain? And in many=20 "standard" apps you find that you need to apply that or other tweak?=20 > > And please -- let the kernel be custom-built! And it is. emerge sys-kernel/linux-sources will only fetch and patch the sources. Yo= u=20 configure and compile it yourself. And if you do not like patches just fe= tch=20 and apply whatever you prefer.=20 PS Is this a use question or a developer suggestion? In first case please head over to gentoo-user mailing list, in second ple= ase=20 formulate it in a more clear way :-).