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* [gentoo-dev] Gentoo in the real world & utopia
@ 2002-03-31 22:09 Sanity in Anarchy
  2002-03-31 22:33 ` George Shapovalov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Sanity in Anarchy @ 2002-03-31 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

Here's a simple comparison:  Gentoo has 1389 packages, and Debian has over 
3500.  If this is true, I'd certainly rather have Debian, with apt-get, unless 
there's some way you can get your Portage features to work on .deb packages.  
Also, I can easily tell apt-get to only get free packages -- free as in 
freedom of speech, not free beer. (read: free as in GNU or Free Software or 
GPL/LGPL'd open-source software)

I like the idea of setting global configuration settings for a package 
manager, but it just doesn't work with your current setup.  Besides, I don't 
have so many programs that I have trouble configuring them all.

And please -- let the kernel be custom-built!

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo in the real world & utopia
  2002-03-31 22:09 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo in the real world & utopia Sanity in Anarchy
@ 2002-03-31 22:33 ` George Shapovalov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: George Shapovalov @ 2002-03-31 22:33 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

Hi

Is this a troll or a start of a flame war?
Please see below.

On Sunday 31 March 2002 14:09, you wrote:
> Here's a simple comparison:  Gentoo has 1389 packages, and Debian has over
  Cool, little bit more than month ago there were only close to 1000 :-). I 
guess you see what I mean. It grows, and grows rapidly both in package and 
user count. It is so much easier to create ebuild. And it makes hot heads 
feel cool, allowing concerned people have all the control while automatyzing 
routine tasks. Please read the web page for more blurb :-).
> 3500.  If this is true, I'd certainly rather have Debian, with apt-get,
> unless there's some way you can get your Portage features to work on .deb
> packages. Also, I can easily tell apt-get to only get free packages -- free
> as in freedom of speech, not free beer. (read: free as in GNU or Free
> Software or GPL/LGPL'd open-source software)


>
> I like the idea of setting global configuration settings for a package
> manager, but it just doesn't work with your current setup.  Besides, I
> don't have so many programs that I have trouble configuring them all.
What if this is many systems that you need to maintain? And in many 
"standard" apps you find that you need to apply that or other tweak? 

>
> And please -- let the kernel be custom-built!
   And it is.
emerge sys-kernel/linux-sources will only fetch and patch the sources. You 
configure and compile it yourself. And if you do not like patches just fetch 
and apply whatever you prefer. 

PS
Is this a use question or a developer suggestion?
In first case please head over to gentoo-user mailing list, in second please 
formulate it in a more clear way :-).


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