From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_MISSING, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7828E20EDAFB for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 01:48:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from amtsberg.2y.net niam@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [80.134.5.61] by smtp-send.myrealbox.com with Novell NIMS $Revision: 2.88 $ on Novell NetWare via secured & encrypted transport (TLS); Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:44:21 -0700 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by amtsberg.2y.net with smtp (MasqMail 0.1.16) id 16oJij-7nS-00 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:44:18 +0100 Received: by pegasus (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:44:17 +0100 From: Nico Amtsberg Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:44:17 +0100 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Message-ID: <20020322074417.GA29946@pegasus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Subject: [gentoo-dev] Use-Flags cause XMMS, jed and other bloat Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 36e84dda-2e28-4cbf-9011-ddb34c4dad90 X-Archives-Hash: 979138ab44c984ebb6c0e700e47944f9 Hello everyone ! Here are a few of my thoughts about the portage system. Pehaps you can tell me if something will be changed to my needs and to that what I understand Gentoo wants to be as announced on their website. If I have the X-Flag set, which is okay because I want X, and try to emerge jed to have a good editor, Gentoo wants to compile the whole XFree-Package to also get xjed which I didn't want. It compiles X with all drivers - Sorcerer Linux asked, which X11-drivers are needed. Same with alsa - all card-drivers are made, I have to edit the ebuild-file and all changes will be gone after the next emerge rsync. As you see with XMMS and the complainments about the avi-plugin, especially the Gentoo-user wants to have the power to control what is compiled and installed. And if I correctly understand the webpage then this is what Gentoo wants to provide - but IMHO it doesn't at the moment. Nico Amtsberg Nonetheless a very good distribution