* [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] Email server "out of the box"...
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@ 2002-03-09 13:57 ` Thilo Bangert
2002-03-09 22:27 ` Doug Miller
2002-03-10 21:58 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] " Thilo Bangert
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thilo Bangert @ 2002-03-09 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user; +Cc: gentoo-dev
Hi,
On Saturday, 9. March 2002 09:00, you wrote:
> I have kind of made this inquiry before... however since my email was
> messed up I dunno if it ever really got answered.
>
> I'm looking for an "out of the box" email solution with Gentoo,
> meaning that all the software in question can be supplied via the
> normal portage tree. I'm already quite pleased with Apache/PHP as
> well as MySQL via this method. I like it even better than if I did it
> myself through source (as is the case on my other server).
>
> I need a mail solution that creates virtual mail users on virtual
> domains. I'd also like it to have some method of opening up a relay
> (like SMTP after POP or something like that). I have a server with a
> few domains pointing to it and I like giving out email addresses to
> friends and associates.
>
> My preference is to use either Postfix or Qmail as the MTA. I've
> worked with qmail in the past and then have a POP daemon and tools to
> handle the virtual domains. I have NO interest in IMAP for anything.
>
> Is there something in Portage that someone has used to do this? I
> figure with the way its simplified getting Apache/PHP/MySQL up that
> there has to be some no brainer (by comparison) email solution. Heck,
> even an ebuild of vpopmail wouldn't be bad.
>
> Joshua
i will have to setup a mailserver of that kind myself within the next
weeks. i must have missed your first message
here's what i plan to include:
qmail (+ Patches like QMAILQUEUE, big-todo etc.)
qmail-notify for mailnotifications
qmail-autoresponder for autoresponder
qmail-scanner for emailscanning (hence QMAILQUEUE)
qqrbl.pl for RBL support (optional)
relay-ctrl for POP-before-SMTP authentication
vmailmgr for virtual hosts
mailfront + cvm-vmailmgr for SMTP AUTH (PLAIN + LOGIN)
courier-imap for imap support (optional)
this allows easy webmail through omail-webmail
and easy mail configuration through omail-admin
this is a setup i have run successfully on a different server and i am
very pleased...
besides these thing, i will have to create ebuilds for ezmlm-idx,
sophie and sophisticated (for the sophos antivirus)
the way i am thinking of this now, this will need seperate ebuilds for
any helper programs plus a qmail-vmailmgr ebuild which will have all
the other programms as RDEPENDs
if you or anybody else is interested in this kind of setup we could
work on it together...
from this point the discussion probably should continue on gentoo-dev
--
regards
Thilo
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* [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] Email server "out of the box"...
2002-03-09 13:57 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] Email server "out of the box" Thilo Bangert
@ 2002-03-09 22:27 ` Doug Miller
2002-03-09 23:04 ` [gentoo-dev] " Cult Hero
2002-03-10 21:58 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] " Thilo Bangert
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Doug Miller @ 2002-03-09 22:27 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:57:29 +0100
Thilo Bangert <thilo.bangert@gmx.net> wrote:
> i will have to setup a mailserver of that kind myself within the next
> weeks. i must have missed your first message
>
> here's what i plan to include:
>
> qmail (+ Patches like QMAILQUEUE, big-todo etc.)
> qmail-notify for mailnotifications
> qmail-autoresponder for autoresponder
> qmail-scanner for emailscanning (hence QMAILQUEUE)
> qqrbl.pl for RBL support (optional)
> relay-ctrl for POP-before-SMTP authentication
> vmailmgr for virtual hosts
> mailfront + cvm-vmailmgr for SMTP AUTH (PLAIN + LOGIN)
> courier-imap for imap support (optional)
>
> this allows easy webmail through omail-webmail
> and easy mail configuration through omail-admin
>
> this is a setup i have run successfully on a different server and i am
> very pleased...
> besides these thing, i will have to create ebuilds for ezmlm-idx,
> sophie and sophisticated (for the sophos antivirus)
>
> the way i am thinking of this now, this will need seperate ebuilds for
> any helper programs plus a qmail-vmailmgr ebuild which will have all
> the other programms as RDEPENDs
>
> if you or anybody else is interested in this kind of setup we could
> work on it together...
>
> from this point the discussion probably should continue on gentoo-dev
>
> --
> regards
> Thilo
Thilo,
I'm in the same situation. I would be happy to help in any way getting
this set up as this is going to be one of my main uses of my gentoo
server. If you would like to coordinate on some ebuilds, let me know.
Thanks.
Regards,
Doug Miller
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Email server "out of the box"...
2002-03-09 22:27 ` Doug Miller
@ 2002-03-09 23:04 ` Cult Hero
2002-03-09 23:23 ` Gontran
2002-03-09 23:52 ` Thilo Bangert
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Cult Hero @ 2002-03-09 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
We may want to evaluate vpopmail vs vmailmgr. vpopmail might be easier to
set up since it uses one user for all vdomains and vmailmgr uses a user per
domain. Also, as far as I can tell, vpopmail has a larger user base. It'll
also work with courier-imap and a lot of web frontends.
Whatever the case, I'm semi-familiar vpopmail and have never touched
vmailmgr. Although... if we do one we might as well do both since they're
easily the two most popular products to use in conjunction with qmail for
virtual domains. I believe vpopmail can be configured to work with postfix
too, but seeing has I have absolutely no experience with postfix I'm not a
lot of good in that arena.
I've also never written an ebuild... but no time like the present to learn.
I'm just glad I'm not in a rush on this new server.
Joshua
At 04:27 PM 3/9/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:57:29 +0100
>Thilo Bangert <thilo.bangert@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> > i will have to setup a mailserver of that kind myself within the next
> > weeks. i must have missed your first message
> >
> > here's what i plan to include:
> >
> > qmail (+ Patches like QMAILQUEUE, big-todo etc.)
> > qmail-notify for mailnotifications
> > qmail-autoresponder for autoresponder
> > qmail-scanner for emailscanning (hence QMAILQUEUE)
> > qqrbl.pl for RBL support (optional)
> > relay-ctrl for POP-before-SMTP authentication
> > vmailmgr for virtual hosts
> > mailfront + cvm-vmailmgr for SMTP AUTH (PLAIN + LOGIN)
> > courier-imap for imap support (optional)
> >
> > this allows easy webmail through omail-webmail
> > and easy mail configuration through omail-admin
> >
> > this is a setup i have run successfully on a different server and i am
> > very pleased...
> > besides these thing, i will have to create ebuilds for ezmlm-idx,
> > sophie and sophisticated (for the sophos antivirus)
> >
> > the way i am thinking of this now, this will need seperate ebuilds for
> > any helper programs plus a qmail-vmailmgr ebuild which will have all
> > the other programms as RDEPENDs
> >
> > if you or anybody else is interested in this kind of setup we could
> > work on it together...
> >
> > from this point the discussion probably should continue on gentoo-dev
> >
> > --
> > regards
> > Thilo
>
>
>Thilo,
>
>I'm in the same situation. I would be happy to help in any way getting
>this set up as this is going to be one of my main uses of my gentoo
>server. If you would like to coordinate on some ebuilds, let me know.
>Thanks.
>
>Regards,
>
>Doug Miller
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bad day to reduce the sanest man to lunacy. That's how far the world is
from where I am. Just one bad day." - The Joker
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Email server "out of the box"...
2002-03-09 23:04 ` [gentoo-dev] " Cult Hero
@ 2002-03-09 23:23 ` Gontran
2002-03-09 23:52 ` Thilo Bangert
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Gontran @ 2002-03-09 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
* Cult Hero (culthero@culthero.info) wrote:
> We may want to evaluate vpopmail vs vmailmgr. vpopmail might be easier to
> set up since it uses one user for all vdomains and vmailmgr uses a user per
> domain. Also, as far as I can tell, vpopmail has a larger user base. It'll
> also work with courier-imap and a lot of web frontends.
>
It would be ideal if one could _either_ install vpopmail or vmailmgr
with their out of the box qmail. I know I've had different occassions
where I had vmailmgr running on the system, but really could have used
vpopmail. On the other hand, with respect to completeness in virtual
hosting, vmailmgr is the way to go. With vmailmgr, chroots for pure-ftp
are ready to go, everydomain can manage their mail accounts with omail,
etc.
I'd like to tag along for this one too.
Gontran
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Email server "out of the box"...
2002-03-09 23:04 ` [gentoo-dev] " Cult Hero
2002-03-09 23:23 ` Gontran
@ 2002-03-09 23:52 ` Thilo Bangert
2002-03-10 1:42 ` Cult Hero
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thilo Bangert @ 2002-03-09 23:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Hi,
On Sunday, 10. March 2002 00:04, you wrote:
> We may want to evaluate vpopmail vs vmailmgr. vpopmail might be
> easier to set up since it uses one user for all vdomains and vmailmgr
> uses a user per domain. Also, as far as I can tell, vpopmail has a
> larger user base. It'll also work with courier-imap and a lot of web
> frontends.
>
> Whatever the case, I'm semi-familiar vpopmail and have never touched
> vmailmgr. Although... if we do one we might as well do both since
> they're easily the two most popular products to use in conjunction
> with qmail for virtual domains. I believe vpopmail can be configured
> to work with postfix too, but seeing has I have absolutely no
> experience with postfix I'm not a lot of good in that arena.
>
> I've also never written an ebuild... but no time like the present to
> learn. I'm just glad I'm not in a rush on this new server.
>
my machine has to be setup with vmailmgr, so this is not really an
issue for me... this has been decided in a different time and place...
i feel like i know vmailmgr pretty well, and i can see how the parts
will work together (mainly because i have a different machine with it
running already)
to be honest, i don't know vpopmail to well, but when i had to choose i
chose vmailmgr...
> Joshua
>
--
regards
Thilo
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Email server "out of the box"...
2002-03-09 23:52 ` Thilo Bangert
@ 2002-03-10 1:42 ` Cult Hero
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Cult Hero @ 2002-03-10 1:42 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Well then let's do both and start with vmailmgr. I'm easily the most novice
here and while I'd love to help (and will in any way I can) I'll probably
be doing a lot more asking than answering.
Either tonight or Monday or whenever I'll do a source install and get
comfortable with the setup. After we get this working setting up a vpopmail
ebuild should be way easier. I think I'm gonna put together a simple ebuild
to learn the process as well.
There can never be enough ebuilds.
Joshua
At 12:52 AM 3/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Sunday, 10. March 2002 00:04, you wrote:
> > We may want to evaluate vpopmail vs vmailmgr. vpopmail might be
> > easier to set up since it uses one user for all vdomains and vmailmgr
> > uses a user per domain. Also, as far as I can tell, vpopmail has a
> > larger user base. It'll also work with courier-imap and a lot of web
> > frontends.
> >
> > Whatever the case, I'm semi-familiar vpopmail and have never touched
> > vmailmgr. Although... if we do one we might as well do both since
> > they're easily the two most popular products to use in conjunction
> > with qmail for virtual domains. I believe vpopmail can be configured
> > to work with postfix too, but seeing has I have absolutely no
> > experience with postfix I'm not a lot of good in that arena.
> >
> > I've also never written an ebuild... but no time like the present to
> > learn. I'm just glad I'm not in a rush on this new server.
> >
>
>my machine has to be setup with vmailmgr, so this is not really an
>issue for me... this has been decided in a different time and place...
>
>i feel like i know vmailmgr pretty well, and i can see how the parts
>will work together (mainly because i have a different machine with it
>running already)
>
>to be honest, i don't know vpopmail to well, but when i had to choose i
>chose vmailmgr...
>
> > Joshua
> >
>
>--
>regards
>Thilo
>_______________________________________________
>gentoo-dev mailing list
>gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
>http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
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bad day to reduce the sanest man to lunacy. That's how far the world is
from where I am. Just one bad day." - The Joker
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] Email server "out of the box"...
2002-03-09 13:57 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] Email server "out of the box" Thilo Bangert
2002-03-09 22:27 ` Doug Miller
@ 2002-03-10 21:58 ` Thilo Bangert
2002-03-17 21:08 ` Thilo Bangert
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thilo Bangert @ 2002-03-10 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
alright folks,
lets get to work.
it looks like there are a number of "easy" ebuilds - ie. all those that
only need to be installed
this would be:
qmail-autoresponder
mailfront
relay-ctrl
qqrbl.pl
then there are a couple packages that need a little setup:
vmailmgr (setting up the vmailmgr daemon - ucspi-unix)
cvm-vmailmgr (setting up the daemon - ucspi-unix)
dificult ebuilds
qmail-scanner (depending on a antivirus scanner, tnef, maildrop and
more)
qmail-vmailmgr ebuild (to set the whole thing up)
courier-imap only needs to be configured to use vmailmgr for
authentication
>
> qmail (+ Patches like QMAILQUEUE, big-todo etc.)
> qmail-notify for mailnotifications
> qmail-autoresponder for autoresponder
> qmail-scanner for emailscanning (hence QMAILQUEUE)
> qqrbl.pl for RBL support (optional)
> relay-ctrl for POP-before-SMTP authentication
> vmailmgr for virtual hosts
> mailfront + cvm-vmailmgr for SMTP AUTH (PLAIN + LOGIN)
> courier-imap for imap support (optional)
>
any volunteers?
i am going to start of with the vmailmgr ebuild...
--
regards
Thilo
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] Email server "out of the box"...
2002-03-10 21:58 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] " Thilo Bangert
@ 2002-03-17 21:08 ` Thilo Bangert
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thilo Bangert @ 2002-03-17 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
check out my "progress" at
http://fizzelpark.com/portage/?dirpath=net-mail/
--
regards
Thilo
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