[gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Sebastian Werner]

Hey,

Why we need to build freetype in x. Could we not make xfree depend on
media-libs/freetype1 and 2? And then add to the site.def something like:

#define HaveFreeType2 YES
#define HaveFreetype2 YES
#define HaveFreeType YES
#define HaveFreetype YES

#define BuildFreeType2 YES
#define BuildFreetype2 YES
#define BuildFreeType YES
#define BuildFreetype YES

So we could use the newer freetype2 (2.0.5) which works great.

Any suggestions,

Sebastian Werner

Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Mikael Hallendal]

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tor 2001-12-13 klockan 15.56 skrev Sebastian Werner:
> Hey,

Hi!

> So we could use the newer freetype2 (2.0.5) which works great.

Hmm, I'm not sure I follow you here, why do you need to make X depend on
freetype2 in order to use it?
I use it without this change...

Regards,
  Mikael Hallendal
 
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Mikael Hallendal
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader
CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden


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Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Sebastian Werner]

You have 2 version of freetype then. the old 2.0.1 (?) from x-4.1.0 in 
/usr/X11R6/lib and the one you have selected in /usr/lib..

this make no sense - or?

Sebastian

Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2001 21:28 schrieben Sie:
> tor 2001-12-13 klockan 15.56 skrev Sebastian Werner:
> > Hey,
>
> Hi!
>
> > So we could use the newer freetype2 (2.0.5) which works great.
>
> Hmm, I'm not sure I follow you here, why do you need to make X depend on
> freetype2 in order to use it?
> I use it without this change...
>
> Regards,
>   Mikael Hallendal

Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Mikael Hallendal]

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tor 2001-12-13 klockan 22.46 skrev Sebastian Werner:
> You have 2 version of freetype then. the old 2.0.1 (?) from x-4.1.0 in 
> /usr/X11R6/lib and the one you have selected in /usr/lib..

Hmm .. so XFree makes a copy of the free-type into /usr/X11R6/lib??
And everything then uses the one in /usr/lib?

If so, is why compile XFree with FreeType at all? If the one in /usr/lib
is used anyway?

> this make no sense - or?

No :)

Regards,
  Mikael Hallendal
 
-- 

Mikael Hallendal
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader
CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden


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Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[jano]

> tor 2001-12-13 klockan 22.46 skrev Sebastian Werner:
>> You have 2 version of freetype then. the old 2.0.1 (?) from x-4.1.0 in
>>  /usr/X11R6/lib and the one you have selected in /usr/lib..
>
> Hmm .. so XFree makes a copy of the free-type into /usr/X11R6/lib?? And
> everything then uses the one in /usr/lib?
>
> If so, is why compile XFree with FreeType at all? If the one in
> /usr/lib is used anyway?

I think he was originally suggesting to compile XFree86 with the latest
freetype libs instead of using the ones that come with the X source.  Doing
this would "require" a dependency on the freetype libs, as he pointed out.
I wonder if the freeype libs which come with the X source would still be
compiled and installed during the process?  I would hope not.

Jano

Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Daniel Robbins]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:13:04AM +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote:
> > this make no sense - or?
> 
> No :)

>From what I understand, the freetype that comes with X is a cvs version of
freetype that contains certain features that are not (or were not) available in
the normal library.  After we found this out, we just included X's freetype and
left it at that.

Best Regards,

-- 
Daniel Robbins                                  <drobbins@gentoo.org>
Chief Architect/President                       http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.

AW: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Sebastian Werner]

But xfree-4.1.0 released before freetype-2.0.5. So I think the lib in
the freetype package must be newer. Mhh, I don't know sure... but two
same libs in different version makes no sense. The other way could be to
make a depend-flag in the package which uses this feature like:

'virtual/freetype'

which uses X if activated in make.conf or freetype if X disabled in
make.conf.

Thanks in advance

Sebastian Werner

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Betreff: Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:13:04AM +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote:
> > this make no sense - or?
> 
> No :)

>From what I understand, the freetype that comes with X is a cvs version
of
freetype that contains certain features that are not (or were not)
available in
the normal library.  After we found this out, we just included X's
freetype and
left it at that.

Best Regards,

-- 
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Chief Architect/President                       http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Daniel Robbins]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 08:37:08AM +0100, Sebastian Werner wrote:
> But xfree-4.1.0 released before freetype-2.0.5. So I think the lib in
> the freetype package must be newer. Mhh, I don't know sure... but two
> same libs in different version makes no sense. The other way could be to
> make a depend-flag in the package which uses this feature like:
> 
> 'virtual/freetype'
> 
> which uses X if activated in make.conf or freetype if X disabled in
> make.conf.

We did this before and it didn't work.

-- 
Daniel Robbins                                  <drobbins@gentoo.org>
Chief Architect/President                       http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.

Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Sebastian Werner]

what was the problem at this time?

Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2001 19:41 schrieben Sie:
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 08:37:08AM +0100, Sebastian Werner wrote:
> > But xfree-4.1.0 released before freetype-2.0.5. So I think the lib in
> > the freetype package must be newer. Mhh, I don't know sure... but two
> > same libs in different version makes no sense. The other way could be to
> > make a depend-flag in the package which uses this feature like:
> >
> > 'virtual/freetype'
> >
> > which uses X if activated in make.conf or freetype if X disabled in
> > make.conf.
>
> We did this before and it didn't work.

Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Daniel Robbins]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 08:06:37PM +0100, Sebastian Werner wrote:
> what was the problem at this time?

Achim was the one who found it; you can ask him.  I already explained that X
needed the CVS version of freetype for it's TrueType font support.

-- 
Daniel Robbins                                  <drobbins@gentoo.org>
Chief Architect/President                       http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.

Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Sebastian Werner]

This isn't true. I have explained the way it work on my system. With the two 
freetype (1.x and 2.x) versions and Xfree without own freetype i have full 
truetype-font support under kde etc.... I wouldn't tell you this if it is 
wrong!

Sebastian

Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2001 20:24 schrieben Sie:
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 08:06:37PM +0100, Sebastian Werner wrote:
> > what was the problem at this time?
>
> Achim was the one who found it; you can ask him.  I already explained that
> X needed the CVS version of freetype for it's TrueType font support.

Re: [gentoo-dev] FreeType in X - why?

[Daniel Robbins]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 08:53:58PM +0100, Sebastian Werner wrote:
> This isn't true. I have explained the way it work on my system. With the two 
> freetype (1.x and 2.x) versions and Xfree without own freetype i have full 
> truetype-font support under kde etc.... I wouldn't tell you this if it is 
> wrong!

Well, at one point in the past (X 4.0.3?) it was true.  Obviously if you have
it working, then it works.  Sorry I missed that, I don't have much time to
check my gentoo-dev emails.

Best Regards,

-- 
Daniel Robbins                                  <drobbins@gentoo.org>
Chief Architect/President                       http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.