[gentoo-dev] Important instructions to manually compile kde apps

[gentoo-dev] Important instructions to manually compile kde apps

[Dan Armak]

Hi all,

Right now, with the "multi-kdelibs scheme", to compile a KDE app you need to 
do:
---
export KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kdelibs-$ver
./configure --prefix=/usr[/local]
---
(/usr/local being recommended for manually compiled apps)
Also, kdevelop requires a correct KDEDIR setting (like the one above) to run 
configure scripts.

I want to put this KDEDIR setting into /etc/env.d. This may cause people who 
don't read the above instructions to run configure without parameters, and 
their app will then install into KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kdelibs-* which is bad. They 
won't be expecting that because /usr/local is the default, but KDEDIR 
overrides it in this case.

So, this needs to be put somewhere where many people will see it - a FAQ item 
probably, but most people don't read the FAQs until they have a problem.

Suggestions? Where should this go?

-- 

Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Matan, Israel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Important instructions to manually compile kde apps

[Collins Richey]

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:07:35 +0200 Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org>
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Right now, with the "multi-kdelibs scheme", to compile a KDE app you
> need to 
> do:
> ---
> export KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kdelibs-$ver
> ./configure --prefix=/usr[/local]
> ---
> (/usr/local being recommended for manually compiled apps)
> Also, kdevelop requires a correct KDEDIR setting (like the one
> above) to run 
> configure scripts.
> 
> I want to put this KDEDIR setting into /etc/env.d. This may cause
> people who 
> don't read the above instructions to run configure without
> parameters, and 
> their app will then install into KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kdelibs-* which is
> bad. They 
> won't be expecting that because /usr/local is the default, but
> KDEDIR 
> overrides it in this case.
> 
> So, this needs to be put somewhere where many people will see it - a
> FAQ item 
> probably, but most people don't read the FAQs until they have a
> problem.
> 
> Suggestions? Where should this go?
> 

My $.02 worth.  There should be an item like the excellent "From
Source Cd Install Guide" with installation, warnings,  and
post-install usability and setup instructions for every major package.

-- 
Collins Richey
Denver Area
gentoo_rc6 k2.4.15-pre5+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Important instructions to manually compile kde apps

[Collins Richey]

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:37:12 -0700 Collins Richey <erichey2@home.com>
wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:07:35 +0200 Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Right now, with the "multi-kdelibs scheme", to compile a KDE app
> you
> > need to 
> > do:
> > ---
> > export KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kdelibs-$ver
> > ./configure --prefix=/usr[/local]
> > ---
> > (/usr/local being recommended for manually compiled apps)
> > Also, kdevelop requires a correct KDEDIR setting (like the one
> > above) to run 
> > configure scripts.
> > 
> > I want to put this KDEDIR setting into /etc/env.d. This may cause
> > people who 
> > don't read the above instructions to run configure without
> > parameters, and 
> > their app will then install into KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kdelibs-* which
> is
> > bad. They 
> > won't be expecting that because /usr/local is the default, but
> > KDEDIR 
> > overrides it in this case.
> > 
> > So, this needs to be put somewhere where many people will see it -
> a
> > FAQ item 
> > probably, but most people don't read the FAQs until they have a
> > problem.
> > 
> > Suggestions? Where should this go?
> > 
> 
> My $.02 worth.  There should be an item like the excellent "From
> Source Cd Install Guide" with installation, warnings,  and
> post-install usability and setup instructions for every major
> package.
> 

For example, I managed to slog my way through the post-install setup
for postgresql (see my earlier post), but I still can't get MySQL
setup properly.

-- 
Collins Richey
Denver Area
gentoo_rc6 k2.4.15-pre5+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Important instructions to manually compile kde apps

[Geert Bevin]

Hi,

about the kde 2.2.2 ebuilds. I merged kde-base/kde and there are some
strange problems. When I start applications from within gnome, they
work. However the startkde doesn't and just shows a blank screen. Any
ideas?

Gert.

On Sun, 2001-11-25 at 21:07, Dan Armak wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Right now, with the "multi-kdelibs scheme", to compile a KDE app you need to 
> do:
> ---
> export KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kdelibs-$ver
> ./configure --prefix=/usr[/local]
> ---
> (/usr/local being recommended for manually compiled apps)
> Also, kdevelop requires a correct KDEDIR setting (like the one above) to run 
> configure scripts.
> 
> I want to put this KDEDIR setting into /etc/env.d. This may cause people who 
> don't read the above instructions to run configure without parameters, and 
> their app will then install into KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kdelibs-* which is bad. They 
> won't be expecting that because /usr/local is the default, but KDEDIR 
> overrides it in this case.
> 
> So, this needs to be put somewhere where many people will see it - a FAQ item 
> probably, but most people don't read the FAQs until they have a problem.
> 
> Suggestions? Where should this go?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Dan Armak
> Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
> Matan, Israel
> _______________________________________________
> gentoo-dev mailing list
> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
> 
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the Leaf sprl/bvba
"Use what you need"           Pierre Theunisstraat 1/47
http://www.theleaf.be         1030 Brussels
gbevin@theleaf.be             Tel & Fax +32 2 241 19 98

Re: [gentoo-dev] Important instructions to manually compile kde apps

[Bart Verwilst]

Hi!

emerge kde-base/kde-env-2.2.2 and your problem will be fixed.
Make sure you have an up-to-date portage tree for it, because this
fix was included only yesterday.

See ya

On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 09:44, Geert Bevin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> about the kde 2.2.2 ebuilds. I merged kde-base/kde and there are some
> strange problems. When I start applications from within gnome, they
> work. However the startkde doesn't and just shows a blank screen. Any
> ideas?
> 
> Gert.

-- 
Bart Verwilst
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Gent, Belgium

Re: [gentoo-dev] Important instructions to manually compile kde apps

[Geert Bevin]

This doesn't seem to work. I added 'export KDEDIR=/usr' to the startkde
dir. Now it works.

On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 17:10, Bart Verwilst wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> emerge kde-base/kde-env-2.2.2 and your problem will be fixed.
> Make sure you have an up-to-date portage tree for it, because this
> fix was included only yesterday.
> 
> See ya
-- 
Geert Bevin
the Leaf sprl/bvba
"Use what you need"           Pierre Theunisstraat 1/47
http://www.theleaf.be         1030 Brussels
gbevin@theleaf.be             Tel & Fax +32 2 241 19 98

Re: [gentoo-dev] Important instructions to manually compile kde apps

[Dan Armak]

On Tuesday 27 November 2001 01:52, you wrote:
> This doesn't seem to work. I added 'export KDEDIR=/usr' to the startkde
> dir. Now it works.
This is what the kde-env-2.2.2 ebuild shuold do, it just installs a file in 
/etc/env.d that sets KDEDIR=/usr. So if that doesn't work something is broken.

-- 

Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Matan, Israel

[gentoo-dev] reiserfs version?

[nrb23]

For some reason, I the superblock on my /home partition seems to have 
dissapeared into the ether. I'm trying to run reiserfsck on it, but I 
need to know what kind of reiserfs would have been installed by a recent 
rc6 install image. 

any ideas?

thanks
-nick

Re: [gentoo-dev] reiserfs version?

[djamil essaissi]

it kinda depends on the kernel version you "were" using ... so what
krnel ver. are you using ?
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 16:54, nrb23@cornell.edu wrote:
> For some reason, I the superblock on my /home partition seems to have 
> dissapeared into the ether. I'm trying to run reiserfsck on it, but I 
> need to know what kind of reiserfs would have been installed by a recent 
> rc6 install image. 
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> thanks
> -nick
> _______________________________________________
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> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
> 

Re: [gentoo-dev] reiserfs version?

[nrb23]

It was RC6-10 (or 11, can't remember which), and it still is 
RC6-10(or11). The previous kernel wast 2.4.14, now 2.4.15

thanks,
nick

On 27 Nov 2001, djamil essaissi wrote:

> it kinda depends on the kernel version you "were" using ... so what
> krnel ver. are you using ?
> On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 16:54, nrb23@cornell.edu wrote:
> > For some reason, I the superblock on my /home partition seems to have 
> > dissapeared into the ether. I'm trying to run reiserfsck on it, but I 
> > need to know what kind of reiserfs would have been installed by a recent 
> > rc6 install image. 
> > 
> > any ideas?
> > 
> > thanks
> > -nick
> > _______________________________________________
> > gentoo-dev mailing list
> > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> > http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
> > 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
> 

Re: [gentoo-dev] reiserfs version?

[djamil essaissi]

oops i kinda felt that one !
check out kernel.org the .15 kernel is buggy : messes up filesystems ...
in case you wich to work hard there are reiserfstools on your system (at
the right version) ...
do not expect miracles (when you live on the edge .. :) )
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 17:08, nrb23@cornell.edu wrote:
> It was RC6-10 (or 11, can't remember which), and it still is 
> RC6-10(or11). The previous kernel wast 2.4.14, now 2.4.15
> 
> thanks,
> nick
> 
> On 27 Nov 2001, djamil essaissi wrote:
> 
> > it kinda depends on the kernel version you "were" using ... so what
> > krnel ver. are you using ?
> > On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 16:54, nrb23@cornell.edu wrote:
> > > For some reason, I the superblock on my /home partition seems to have 
> > > dissapeared into the ether. I'm trying to run reiserfsck on it, but I 
> > > need to know what kind of reiserfs would have been installed by a recent 
> > > rc6 install image. 
> > > 
> > > any ideas?
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > -nick
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > gentoo-dev mailing list
> > > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> > > http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > gentoo-dev mailing list
> > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> > http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
> > 
> _______________________________________________
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> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
> 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Important instructions to manually compile kde apps

[Geert Bevin]

Ok, I found what it is. Since I only use sawfish and not the entire
gnome desktop, /etc/profile isn't run. I had to change the shell that
executes the gdm Session to '/bin/sh --login' and now everything seems
to works fine.

On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 07:08, Dan Armak wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 November 2001 01:52, you wrote:
> > This doesn't seem to work. I added 'export KDEDIR=/usr' to the startkde
> > dir. Now it works.
> This is what the kde-env-2.2.2 ebuild shuold do, it just installs a file in 
> /etc/env.d that sets KDEDIR=/usr. So if that doesn't work something is broken.
-- 
Geert Bevin
the Leaf sprl/bvba
"Use what you need"           Pierre Theunisstraat 1/47
http://www.theleaf.be         1030 Brussels
gbevin@theleaf.be             Tel & Fax +32 2 241 19 98