From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from drobbins by cvs.gentoo.org with local (Exim 3.30 #1) id 15pEAY-0008Ms-00 for gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:28:30 -0600 From: Daniel Robbins To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] NAT iptables info Message-ID: <20011004132829.J32329@cvs.gentoo.org> References: <1DCB85BD45DED211B12D009027279E4F47700B@murcury> <20011004130314.6baa7489.djamil@francexpress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011004130314.6baa7489.djamil@francexpress.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Oct 4 13:29:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:28:29 -0600 X-Archives-Salt: 9f29bb3e-0a86-436a-8844-76e939a4aa6a X-Archives-Hash: 0d372baba1ab87eb0a2c76c8f5f9cb75 On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 01:03:14PM +0200, Djamil ESSAISSI wrote: > what you see here is a typical fucked up reaction; Mister is saying literally > to somebody : "hey dumb ass you are too dumb to use our software !! get out > !" Is this how you get attention ? customers ? freinds ?? Braguers ! are we > here to brag ?!or to proof something to Dady ? no ! were here to make It > ,make good shit , and if no one uses it ,well too bad, i'll go back to LFS > and my makefiles. > We have to understand that even charity organizations kiss asses to please > their "customers" --have you ever seen a "charity organization rep." saying > :"oh no that guy is a mobster ...we aint taking his money" > ps: Excuse my english,please. I'll excuse your English but not your swearing :) The philosophy of Gentoo Linux is to make things easier to use with out "dumbing down" the system for power users. So the real answer is to find a way that we can do both what Djamil and Donny suggest at the same time. However, we are not focusing on absolute newbies yet, so right now we want to make the experts and the semi-knowledgable people happy at the same time. That's what we'll do. A lot of this can be solved by extensive documentation/comments about the basic firewall setup. -- Daniel Robbins Chief Architect/President http://www.gentoo.org Gentoo Technologies, Inc.