[gentoo-dev] Installing 1.0-rc6-r9 on Vaio Laptop

[gentoo-dev] Installing 1.0-rc6-r9 on Vaio Laptop

[Christian Hergl]

Greetings list,

two days ago I started to install the r9 build of the rc6 on my Sony 
Vaio N505X. Special Problem: It only got ONE PCMCIA slot, where the 
cdrom hooks in. Here are some remarks about during and after installing:

1. Problem: Got a pcmcia network card and a pcmcia cdrom. The cd image 
boots fine, but... can't mount the cdrom (isn't recognized by the kernel 
after it takes control, though the ramdisk loads fine). So I wanted to 
go over a fat or ntfs partition. Suprise: the gentoo kernel can't mount 
any other filesystem.
Now, after long thinking and a different solution (lotsa different 
bootdisks), I found a file called /etc/filesystems. Does it help if I 
put the fat and ntfs line in there?
Of course, it has to be in the kernel. I think lots of install problems 
could be easier solved if one has the possibility to go over fat and 
ntfs partitions. Any reason why that'S not in the gentoo yet?
2. Pcmcia isn't loaded. So I had to manually insmod every single driver 
for the pcmcia stack (the modules were there, hurray!), then insmod the 
network driver. Worked, but at least it would be nice to have some lines 
about that in the docu =)
Like: 	insmod path/pcmcia_core
	insmod path/yenta_socket
	insmod path/ds
	insmod path/to/networkdriver	
3. Install and compile worked well enough (perl was a bit bouncy with 
some timeout in iolibs?) and I got the system up and running. But... 
pcmcia again. This packet (in pcmcia-cs of portage) also complains about 
the missing X (been on the list before, same bug here). So, erasing X 
from the USE-Variable. Compiles till to the 3c575/tulip, then stops 
there with an error 2 =P Same error one all three version of the 
pcmcia-cs package (28, 28-r1 and 29). Suprisingly enough, if I install 
the package manually (from the tar.gz sources), it worked and compiled 
fine! Some ebuild problem?
4. So, about starting the pcmcia.... I'm totally confused by the new 
startup scripts. I mean, I'm used to the rc runlevels and stuff. The 
problem now that I have (AFTER manually installing the pcmcia startup 
script according to the ebuild AND manually altering the PCIC in it to 
yenta_socket, as the i8xxx doesn'T work on my laptop (and 2.4.x in 
general?)): the pcmcia startup script gets called AFTER the network 
driver is supposed to be loaded by modules. Is there ANY way to change 
the timing/row of the startup scripts?
Currently I manually load the pcmcia modules before the network module 
in 'modules'. I doubt that is wanted....
5. I get every time now I boot a log replay of my reiserfs happens. 
Also, mount/umount and du don'T work, probably due to the new devfs? 
Could someone clue me in pleeze how to get my reiserfs consistent every 
time I (re)boot? I have a baaaad feeling about it, like it doesn't get 
unmounted properly...
6. Yah, and with the yesterday's version of the portage tree I can't 
compile Xfree. Period, any version. Is that knowen yet? If not, tell me 
and I look up the exact lines where it bounces out (short after the 
depencies calculation, I guess)

Else this is the newest linux I've seen so far and think it'S nifty. =) 
Bad luck that r10 came out today. Is it just the hdparm adjustement, and 
can that be fixed into a r9 too? (reinstalling and recompiling would 
take again almost at least 1 day =P)

Thanks for the toy to play with,
Christian

PS: Build from Sources docu: code listing 25. Shouldn'T it be 
net.eth0-dhcp somewhere in there? =) It looks very much the same like 
code listing 24 ;)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Installing 1.0-rc6-r9 on Vaio Laptop

[Jerry A!]

On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:44:12AM +0200, Christian Hergl wrote:
: Greetings list,
:
: two days ago I started to install the r9 build of the rc6 on my Sony
: Vaio N505X. Special Problem: It only got ONE PCMCIA slot, where the
: cdrom hooks in. Here are some remarks about during and after installing:
:
: 1. Problem: Got a pcmcia network card and a pcmcia cdrom. The cd image
: boots fine, but... can't mount the cdrom (isn't recognized by the kernel
: after it takes control, though the ramdisk loads fine). So I wanted to
: go over a fat or ntfs partition. Suprise: the gentoo kernel can't mount
: any other filesystem.

Google is your friend.  This issue has been covered many times and has
many web pages devoted to it.  Short answer, add "ide1=0x180,0x386" to
your kernel parameters when booting.

        --Jerry

name:  Jerry Alexandratos         ||  Open-Source software isn't a
phone: 571.275.9795               ||  matter of life or death...
email: jerry@thehutt.org          ||  ...It's much more important
                                  ||  than that!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Installing 1.0-rc6-r9 on Vaio Laptop

[Daniel Robbins]

On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:44:12AM +0200, Christian Hergl wrote:

> 1. Problem: Got a pcmcia network card and a pcmcia cdrom. The cd image boots
> fine, but... can't mount the cdrom (isn't recognized by the kernel after it
> takes control, though the ramdisk loads fine). So I wanted to go over a fat
> or ntfs partition. Suprise: the gentoo kernel can't mount any other
> filesystem.  Now, after long thinking and a different solution (lotsa
> different bootdisks), I found a file called /etc/filesystems. Does it help if
> I put the fat and ntfs line in there?

OK: PCMCIA support currently isn't tested or fully enabled.  Also, we *do* have
support for every filesystem on the boot CD; however, you need to "insmod" the
modules with -r9 and earlier.  Things should be much easier with -r10, which
includes modprobe.

> 3. Install and compile worked well enough (perl was a bit bouncy with 
> some timeout in iolibs?) and I got the system up and running. But... 
> pcmcia again. This packet (in pcmcia-cs of portage) also complains about 
> the missing X (been on the list before, same bug here). So, erasing X 
> from the USE-Variable. Compiles till to the 3c575/tulip, then stops 
> there with an error 2 =P Same error one all three version of the 
> pcmcia-cs package (28, 28-r1 and 29). Suprisingly enough, if I install 
> the package manually (from the tar.gz sources), it worked and compiled 
> fine! Some ebuild problem?

pcmcia-cs seems to choke when you use certain configuration options.  What
config options did you use?  We made our options more correct, and all of
the sudden the builds started dying.

> 4. So, about starting the pcmcia.... I'm totally confused by the new startup
> scripts. I mean, I'm used to the rc runlevels and stuff. The problem now that
> I have (AFTER manually installing the pcmcia startup script according to the
> ebuild AND manually altering the PCIC in it to yenta_socket, as the i8xxx
> doesn'T work on my laptop (and 2.4.x in general?)): the pcmcia startup script
> gets called AFTER the network driver is supposed to be loaded by modules. Is
> there ANY way to change the timing/row of the startup scripts?  Currently I
> manually load the pcmcia modules before the network module in 'modules'. I
> doubt that is wanted....

A Gentoo Linux version of the pcmcia startup script (with dependencies) is
currently in development.

> 5. I get every time now I boot a log replay of my reiserfs happens. 
> Also, mount/umount and du don'T work, probably due to the new devfs? 
> Could someone clue me in pleeze how to get my reiserfs consistent every 
> time I (re)boot? I have a baaaad feeling about it, like it doesn't get 
> unmounted properly...

What do you mean by "mount/umount and du don't work"?

> 6. Yah, and with the yesterday's version of the portage tree I can't 
> compile Xfree. Period, any version. Is that knowen yet? If not, tell me 
> and I look up the exact lines where it bounces out (short after the 
> depencies calculation, I guess)

Yes, please post the error dump.

> Else this is the newest linux I've seen so far and think it'S nifty. =) 
> Bad luck that r10 came out today. Is it just the hdparm adjustement, and 
> can that be fixed into a r9 too? (reinstalling and recompiling would 
> take again almost at least 1 day =P)

Just things to make installation easier.

> Thanks for the toy to play with,
> Christian

You're welcome.

> PS: Build from Sources docu: code listing 25. Shouldn'T it be 
> net.eth0-dhcp somewhere in there? =) It looks very much the same like 
> code listing 24 ;)

OK; fixed.  Also, we now use rc-update to install the scripts.  Fixed.

-- 
Daniel Robbins					<drobbins@gentoo.org>
Chief Architect/President			http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.			

Re: [gentoo-dev] Installing 1.0-rc6-r9 on Vaio Laptop

[Christian Hergl]

Hi Daniel,

Daniel Robbins wrote

> OK: PCMCIA support currently isn't tested or fully enabled.  Also, we *do* have
> support for every filesystem on the boot CD; however, you need to "insmod" the
> modules with -r9 and earlier.  Things should be much easier with -r10, which
> includes modprobe.


Well, the pcmcia modules worked for me as provided in the build =) But 
short noted about how to insmod/modprobe the pcmcia or the filesystem 
modules. Can save fuzz, I suppose.


> 
> pcmcia-cs seems to choke when you use certain configuration options.  What
> config options did you use?  We made our options more correct, and all of
> the sudden the builds started dying.


Hmm, tried a standart thing, really! Just erased the lvm and lm-sensors 
from the USE-Variabe, as it is of no use on my laptop. I manually copied 
the pcmcia-cs startup script over, and seems to work, but I suppose 
that'S one of the ebuilds that is not r6 ready, as it copied stuff to 
rc.d/config, or at least should?


> 
> A Gentoo Linux version of the pcmcia startup script (with dependencies) is
> currently in development.


I will try to learn the new startupscripts, but was discussing with 
darks today earlier: is it possible to update savely the bootstraps?
BEcause I have V 1.6.1 AND 1.6.2 in var/db/pkg... (last time I 
deinstalled a double package, I killed the system, it was the glibc.... 
yes, I'm playfull)


> 
> What do you mean by "mount/umount and du don't work"?


Ah ja, worked wit Darks on that again. Seems like my startup scripts are wacko behaving.

My /etc/mtab is a file of length 0. When I do 'ln -s /proc/mounts /etc/mtab', mount and 

df and booting works fine. Till.... yeah, the next reboot. Then I got a file of length 

0 again =P
Some script of the r9 is messing this up, searching for it....


> 
>>6. Yah, and with the yesterday's version of the portage tree I can't 
>>compile Xfree. Period, any version. Is that knowen yet? If not, tell me 
>>and I look up the exact lines where it bounces out (short after the 
>>depencies calculation, I guess)
>>
> 
> Yes, please post the error dump.


Eh, sue me, with the latest rsync and latest xfree ebuild things worked. 
  Kde2.2 is up and running. Though I get compile errors with 
kdemultimedia....

Sound is working. The desktop doku might need to be updated for the new scripts?

Like, starting kde at bootup and stuff. =P


To speak about ebuilds getting reworked... is there any chance to mark 
the reworked ebuilds for r6? Just like .... ebuildxyz_r6-rx.ebuild? I'm 
confused now which might work and which not.... OR should I just wait 
three weeks and all is done then?

Thanks for your answer, is fun to work with Gentoo,


Christian