[gentoo-dev] Bootable RC6 Preview?

[gentoo-dev] Bootable RC6 Preview?

[Jerry A!]

Hey all, sorry I've been out of touch for a while.  ReiserFS decided to
fuxor my system.  No biggee, it happens.  However, here's my dilema:
2.4.4-ac9 appears to still reiserfs corruption issues.  2.4.6-2.4.7
never worked on my systems b/c of strange issues with VIA chipsets.

I can't get a break.  8)

Looking over the kernel changelogs, it appears that 2.4.8 and on solve
these known issues (at least there were patches applied, and no new
patches to fix the previous patches).

So, what's the default kernel for rc6?  Please tell me it's at least
2.4.8.  Also, can anyone roll a bootable image of the current rc6?  I'd
like to bootstrap and install from this version rather than risk any
goofy fs and chipset issues.

I wouldn't be so pushy, except I've got a buncha things I'd like to
test, verify and commit.

As always, thanks in advance...

        --Jerry

name:  Jerry Alexandratos         ||  Open-Source software isn't a
phone: 703.599.6023               ||  matter of life or death...
email: jerry@thehutt.org          ||  ...It's much more important
                                  ||  than that!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bootable RC6 Preview?

[Daniel Robbins]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:38:44PM -0400, Jerry A! wrote:

> Looking over the kernel changelogs, it appears that 2.4.8 and on solve
> these known issues (at least there were patches applied, and no new
> patches to fix the previous patches).
> 
> So, what's the default kernel for rc6?  Please tell me it's at least
> 2.4.8.  Also, can anyone roll a bootable image of the current rc6?  I'd
> like to bootstrap and install from this version rather than risk any
> goofy fs and chipset issues.
> 
> I wouldn't be so pushy, except I've got a buncha things I'd like to
> test, verify and commit.

Well, I created a chrootable rc6 build image for the system team, and the rest
is up to you guys.  Right now, Pete and Chad are working on whipping the rest
of sys-* into shape.  Chad is handling sys-libs/pam and I'm guessing that
alkaline is going to start by ripping out multilog and replacing it with a
non-DJB product.  Currently, we are using kernel 2.4.6 and the most recent
ebuild we have is the 2.4.7-vanilla kernel.  I was planning to upgrade to the
most recent kernel a bit later on once our sys image is finished.

Note: cvs.gentoo.org has a VIA KT133 (686b) chipset and doesn't have any
ReiserFS corruption problems.  So does my development box.  cvs.gentoo.org
is using kernel 2.4.4-ac9 and my dev box is using 2.4.6 currently.  You may
try turning off DMA to see if that helps.

Best Regards,

-- 
Daniel Robbins					<drobbins@gentoo.org>
Chief Architect/President			http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.			

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bootable RC6 Preview?

[Jerry A!]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 09:56:50AM -0600, Daniel Robbins wrote:
: On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:38:44PM -0400, Jerry A! wrote:
:
: > Looking over the kernel changelogs, it appears that 2.4.8 and on solve
: > these known issues (at least there were patches applied, and no new
: > patches to fix the previous patches).
: >
: > So, what's the default kernel for rc6?  Please tell me it's at least
: > 2.4.8.  Also, can anyone roll a bootable image of the current rc6?  I'd
: > like to bootstrap and install from this version rather than risk any
: > goofy fs and chipset issues.
: >
: > I wouldn't be so pushy, except I've got a buncha things I'd like to
: > test, verify and commit.
:
: Well, I created a chrootable rc6 build image for the system team, and the rest
: is up to you guys.  Right now, Pete and Chad are working on whipping the rest
: of sys-* into shape.  Chad is handling sys-libs/pam and I'm guessing that
: alkaline is going to start by ripping out multilog and replacing it with a
: non-DJB product.  Currently, we are using kernel 2.4.6 and the most recent
: ebuild we have is the 2.4.7-vanilla kernel.  I was planning to upgrade to the
: most recent kernel a bit later on once our sys image is finished.

Okay, I'll see what I can do.  As far as the multilog stuff goes, are we
still looking at using syslog-ng?  If so, it should be a simple matter
of yanking Debian's syslog.conf, dropping it into /etc and creating the
appropriate /var/log entries.

Alkaline, can you shed any light on this?


: Note: cvs.gentoo.org has a VIA KT133 (686b) chipset and doesn't have any
: ReiserFS corruption problems.  So does my development box.  cvs.gentoo.org
: is using kernel 2.4.4-ac9 and my dev box is using 2.4.6 currently.  You may
: try turning off DMA to see if that helps.

These are two unrelated issues.  I was having ReiserFS corruption issues
with 2.4.4-ac9.  Looking through the kernel archives there do seem to
still be known issues with ReiserFS and IDE drives up to 2.4.5.

However, there are certain VIA mobos that get broken in 2.4.5-2.4.7.
It's not until 2.4.8 (actually, I believe that there is a certain -ac
rev of 2.4.7 that also supplies the VIA fixes).  My machine, before it
bit it wouldn't even boot 2.4.5-2.4.7.

Ugh...

        --Jerry

name:  Jerry Alexandratos         ||  Open-Source software isn't a
phone: 703.599.6023               ||  matter of life or death...
email: jerry@thehutt.org          ||  ...It's much more important
                                  ||  than that!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bootable RC6 Preview?

[Ben Lutgens]

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:38:44PM -0400, Jerry A! wrote:
>
>So, what's the default kernel for rc6?  Please tell me it's at least
>2.4.8.  Also, can anyone roll a bootable image of the current rc6?  I'd
>like to bootstrap and install from this version rather than risk any
>goofy fs and chipset issues.

Install on ext2, apply the correct ac patches (don't know which ones off
the top of my head ) and upgrade online to ext3

>
>I wouldn't be so pushy, except I've got a buncha things I'd like to
>test, verify and commit.
>
>As always, thanks in advance...
>
>        --Jerry
>
>name:  Jerry Alexandratos         ||  Open-Source software isn't a
>phone: 703.599.6023               ||  matter of life or death...
>email: jerry@thehutt.org          ||  ...It's much more important
>                                  ||  than that!
>
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-- 
Ben Lutgens		
Sistina Software Inc.	

What's the difference between root and God ?
God doesn't think that he is root. 

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bootable RC6 Preview?

[Jerry A!]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:21:53PM -0500, Ben Lutgens wrote:
: On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:38:44PM -0400, Jerry A! wrote:
: >
: >So, what's the default kernel for rc6?  Please tell me it's at least
: >2.4.8.  Also, can anyone roll a bootable image of the current rc6?  I'd
: >like to bootstrap and install from this version rather than risk any
: >goofy fs and chipset issues.
:
: Install on ext2, apply the correct ac patches (don't know which ones off
: the top of my head ) and upgrade online to ext3

So, you recommend ext3 over reiserfs?

        --Jerry

name:  Jerry Alexandratos         ||  Open-Source software isn't a
phone: 703.599.6023               ||  matter of life or death...
email: jerry@thehutt.org          ||  ...It's much more important
                                  ||  than that!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bootable RC6 Preview?

[Taras]

I had the same reiserfs crash with 2.4.7.
On 16 Aug 2001 09:56:50 -0600, Daniel Robbins wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:38:44PM -0400, Jerry A! wrote:
> 
> > Looking over the kernel changelogs, it appears that 2.4.8 and on solve
> > these known issues (at least there were patches applied, and no new
> > patches to fix the previous patches).
> > 
> > So, what's the default kernel for rc6?  Please tell me it's at least
> > 2.4.8.  Also, can anyone roll a bootable image of the current rc6?  I'd
> > like to bootstrap and install from this version rather than risk any
> > goofy fs and chipset issues.
> > 
> > I wouldn't be so pushy, except I've got a buncha things I'd like to
> > test, verify and commit.
> 
> Well, I created a chrootable rc6 build image for the system team, and the rest
> is up to you guys.  Right now, Pete and Chad are working on whipping the rest
> of sys-* into shape.  Chad is handling sys-libs/pam and I'm guessing that
> alkaline is going to start by ripping out multilog and replacing it with a
> non-DJB product.  Currently, we are using kernel 2.4.6 and the most recent
> ebuild we have is the 2.4.7-vanilla kernel.  I was planning to upgrade to the
> most recent kernel a bit later on once our sys image is finished.
> 
> Note: cvs.gentoo.org has a VIA KT133 (686b) chipset and doesn't have any
> ReiserFS corruption problems.  So does my development box.  cvs.gentoo.org
> is using kernel 2.4.4-ac9 and my dev box is using 2.4.6 currently.  You may
> try turning off DMA to see if that helps.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Daniel Robbins					<drobbins@gentoo.org>
> Chief Architect/President			http://www.gentoo.org 
> Gentoo Technologies, Inc.			
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bootable RC6 Preview?

[Taras]

On 16 Aug 2001 12:32:30 -0400, Jerry A! wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 09:56:50AM -0600, Daniel Robbins wrote:
> : On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:38:44PM -0400, Jerry A! wrote:
> :
> : > Looking over the kernel changelogs, it appears that 2.4.8 and on solve
> : > these known issues (at least there were patches applied, and no new
> : > patches to fix the previous patches).
> : >
> : > So, what's the default kernel for rc6?  Please tell me it's at least
> : > 2.4.8.  Also, can anyone roll a bootable image of the current rc6?  I'd
> : > like to bootstrap and install from this version rather than risk any
> : > goofy fs and chipset issues.
> : >
> : > I wouldn't be so pushy, except I've got a buncha things I'd like to
> : > test, verify and commit.
> :
> : Well, I created a chrootable rc6 build image for the system team, and the rest
> : is up to you guys.  Right now, Pete and Chad are working on whipping the rest
> : of sys-* into shape.  Chad is handling sys-libs/pam and I'm guessing that
> : alkaline is going to start by ripping out multilog and replacing it with a
> : non-DJB product.  Currently, we are using kernel 2.4.6 and the most recent
> : ebuild we have is the 2.4.7-vanilla kernel.  I was planning to upgrade to the
> : most recent kernel a bit later on once our sys image is finished.
> 
> Okay, I'll see what I can do.  As far as the multilog stuff goes, are we
> still looking at using syslog-ng?  If so, it should be a simple matter
> of yanking Debian's syslog.conf, dropping it into /etc and creating the
> appropriate /var/log entries.
> 
> Alkaline, can you shed any light on this?
> 
> 
> : Note: cvs.gentoo.org has a VIA KT133 (686b) chipset and doesn't have any
> : ReiserFS corruption problems.  So does my development box.  cvs.gentoo.org
> : is using kernel 2.4.4-ac9 and my dev box is using 2.4.6 currently.  You may
> : try turning off DMA to see if that helps.
> 
> These are two unrelated issues.  I was having ReiserFS corruption issues
> with 2.4.4-ac9.  Looking through the kernel archives there do seem to
> still be known issues with ReiserFS and IDE drives up to 2.4.5.
> 
> However, there are certain VIA mobos that get broken in 2.4.5-2.4.7.
> It's not until 2.4.8 (actually, I believe that there is a certain -ac
> rev of 2.4.7 that also supplies the VIA fixes).  My machine, before it
> bit it wouldn't even boot 2.4.5-2.4.7.
Actually recently I went to the reiserfs homepage and they had patches
for 2.4.7 which fixed a few longstanding bugs.

> 
> Ugh...
> 
>         --Jerry
> 
> name:  Jerry Alexandratos         ||  Open-Source software isn't a
> phone: 703.599.6023               ||  matter of life or death...
> email: jerry@thehutt.org          ||  ...It's much more important
>                                   ||  than that!
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bootable RC6 Preview?

[derosa]

> > Looking over the kernel changelogs, it appears that 2.4.8 and on solve
> > these known issues (at least there were patches applied, and no new
> > patches to fix the previous patches).

2.4.8 would be cool if it can be squeezed into rc6 !

Also, is it possible to get support for the Dell aacraid controller patched
into the rc 6 kernel ?? The driver patches are available from
http://domsch.com/linux/aacraid/  for all kernels up to 2.4.8 I have been
unable as yet to do an install from scratch, the best I have been able to do
is install Mandrake, and then manually install the sys tarball to a new
partition etc.

>
> Note: cvs.gentoo.org has a VIA KT133 (686b) chipset and doesn't have any
> ReiserFS corruption problems.  So does my development box.  cvs.gentoo.org
> is using kernel 2.4.4-ac9 and my dev box is using 2.4.6 currently.  You
may
> try turning off DMA to see if that helps.

My system is the VIA KT133 686b on a dual processor motherboard, and I had
loads of problems until 2.4.6, I currently use a 2.4.7 with alsa, and
lm_sensors manually added in. The key for me, was to set the system to
MPS1.2, turn off plug and play in the bios, upgrade to bios rev 10 (from
asus) and turn off dma on the IDE chipset. I still had some sluggishness
issues on IDE io, so I move linux to a couple of 'spare' scsi partitions,
where rc5 now SCREAMS. I still boot off the IDE using VIA, and my swap
partition is there along with a junk drive and I have had no corruption
issues with reiserfs which is the only fs I have been using.

Joe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bootable RC6 Preview?

[Hendrik Visage]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 01:27:53PM -0400, Jerry A! wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:21:53PM -0500, Ben Lutgens wrote:
> : On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 11:38:44PM -0400, Jerry A! wrote:
> : >
> : >So, what's the default kernel for rc6?  Please tell me it's at least
> : >2.4.8.  Also, can anyone roll a bootable image of the current rc6?  I'd
> : >like to bootstrap and install from this version rather than risk any
> : >goofy fs and chipset issues.
> :
> : Install on ext2, apply the correct ac patches (don't know which ones off
> : the top of my head ) and upgrade online to ext3
> 
> So, you recommend ext3 over reiserfs?

I think we'll have to try and compare aples to apples, but seeing that
the one is a banana and the other a mango, you'll have to decide yourself
based on your needs and usage.

-- 
------------------------
Hendrik Visage
hvisage@envisage.co.za