From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12, INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from drobbins by cvs.gentoo.org with local (Exim 3.30 #1) id 15Wuxo-0007D5-00 for gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:19:40 -0600 From: Daniel Robbins To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Bunch of bugs (nothing major - skip if you're not interested) Message-ID: <20010815011940.A27622@cvs.gentoo.org> References: <20010815050414.VEDX23043.femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010815050414.VEDX23043.femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there>; from djdavies@home.com on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 05:09:11AM +0000 Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Aug 15 01:20:03 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:19:40 -0600 X-Archives-Salt: 628f81b6-44bf-4344-b359-7972a4bfaeba X-Archives-Hash: dfb3f3990769598c8ad287d61ba0a6cc On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 05:09:11AM +0000, Don Davies wrote: > After trying to enlist help in the iRC channel to fix these, the impression > was made that a team meeting had to take place before bugs could be fixed. I > understand the underlying principle of not wanting to tread over other > peoples territory.. but in reality we're talking about typos and small build > fixes. If these cannot be immediately fixed and need a developer conference > to resolve.. then well.. Good Luck when the portage tree reaches several > thousand packages. Is there no interest in fixing old stuff or what? Yes, this is totally stupid. Want a developer account? :) > Most of this could have been fixed in 5 mins had somebody showed interest in > doing so. Instead typos need a formal report? I dont mean to sound overly > sarcastic, but surely we neednt go though this excercise in order to get a > few small bugs tidied up. You mean you actually care about the quality of our Portage tree? Seriously, developers *should not* be letting the new team concept get in the way of fixing bugs like this. Chad, if you fix up a desktop package bug, do you think that Hallski will get upset? No. Just email him stating that you made the fix. The team concept is *not* intended to create a Debian-style bureaucratic mess; it's designed to give developers a sense of focus and to encourage *more* personal responsibility, not less. Please, if you don't have the time to make some obvious fixes, just say "I'm busy." Or if you're too lazy, just say "I'm lazy." That's OK. This is a volunteer project; I really can't complain. But don't use the new team organization as an excuse to allow obvious bugs to linger on CVS. I think the operative rule here is to do unto others as you would like them to do unto you. Personally, if someone found an obvious typo or bug in one of *my* ebuilds, I'd would like them to fix it asap (so that as few people are adversely affected by it as possible) and then send me a quick email mentioning the change. Best Regards, -- Daniel Robbins Chief Architect/President http://www.gentoo.org Gentoo Technologies, Inc.