[gentoo-dev] server related wishlist

[gentoo-dev] server related wishlist

[Ben Lutgens]

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As a member of the server team and a sysadmin by trade. I'd like to ask
the Sysadmins of the list what's lacking from gentoo with regards to
server related stuff (daemons, services, management, clustering, HA,
etc).

I'd also like to know your thoughts on what needs to be improved to make
gentoo more likely to bein your server rooms supporting your IT
Infrastructure.

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Ben Lutgens		
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Re: [gentoo-dev] server related wishlist

[Kendall Clark]

On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:47:27PM -0500, Ben Lutgens wrote:
> As a member of the server team and a sysadmin by trade. I'd like to ask
> the Sysadmins of the list what's lacking from gentoo with regards to
> server related stuff (daemons, services, management, clustering, HA,
> etc).
> 
> I'd also like to know your thoughts on what needs to be improved to make
> gentoo more likely to bein your server rooms supporting your IT
> Infrastructure.

What would do it for me is to see Gentoo incorporate a server
build that looked more like Trustix(.org) -- which is the
most OpenBSDesque of the Linux distribs -- plus integrated
the hardened tool chain of Immunix(.org).

Some combination, for Linux servers, of Gentoo's already pretty
aggressive nexgen approach (supervise/monit, ng syslog, etc) plus
some of Trustix's security audit approach, plus Immunix's hardened
tool chain would make, in my view, Gentoo *the leading Linux
server distribution*, and I'd adopt it as my default server
install.

Just my two cents. :>

Kendall Clark
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Re: [gentoo-dev] server related wishlist

[Ben Lutgens]

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On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:55:22PM -0500, Kendall Clark wrote:
>On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:47:27PM -0500, Ben Lutgens wrote:
>
>What would do it for me is to see Gentoo incorporate a server
>build that looked more like Trustix(.org) -- which is the
>most OpenBSDesque of the Linux distribs -- plus integrated
>the hardened tool chain of Immunix(.org).
>
>Some combination, for Linux servers, of Gentoo's already pretty
>aggressive nexgen approach (supervise/monit, ng syslog, etc) plus
>some of Trustix's security audit approach, plus Immunix's hardened
>tool chain would make, in my view, Gentoo *the leading Linux
>server distribution*, and I'd adopt it as my default server
>install.

I'll look into that. I would also like to add in the grsecurity patch to
the kernel but I know most sysadmins would want to customize it
themselves.

>
>Just my two cents. :>
>
>Kendall Clark
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Re: [gentoo-dev] server related wishlist

[Damon M. Conway]

>As a member of the server team and a sysadmin by trade. I'd like to ask
>the Sysadmins of the list what's lacking from gentoo with regards to
>server related stuff (daemons, services, management, clustering, HA,
>etc).

1. Ssh in the base system.  Both OpenBSD and FreeBSD have this now.
2. A decent adduser script.  I've heard one is in the works.
3. Knobs to tune where things get installed by emerge so that it can fit
   into a company standard.  I know this is on the drawing board.
4. tcpdump in the base system.  It's so useful, and almost never installed
   when you actually need it.  FreeBSD has this in the base system.
5. Hardened security (or at least a security knob) has already been
   mentioned, but I'll throw in a me too.

>I'd also like to know your thoughts on what needs to be improved to make
>gentoo more likely to bein your server rooms supporting your IT
>Infrastructure.

I don't know that I'd ever run Linux as a server unless BSD or Solaris
couldn't do the job.  However, if I did have a need for a Linux server, I
would use Gentoo.  It's the only Linux distro that I've actually liked
instead of just been able to tolerate.

Damon

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