From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, DMARC_MISSING,INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from tadpol.dsl.visi.com ([208.42.95.172] helo=sunspot.tilstra.com) by cvs.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 15K33d-0005ch-00 for gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:20:30 -0600 Received: from tadpol by sunspot.tilstra.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15K32I-0000vd-00; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:19:06 -0500 From: tadpol@tadpol.org To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux Standard Base Message-ID: <20010710141905.A3552@tadpol.org> References: <000401c10896$378a1f40$6669a8c0@ortega-lt.hsdrs.com> <01071008492200.00552@localhost> <20010710001036.J29013@cvs.gentoo.org> <01071014152601.00550@localhost> <20010710105258.D9602@cvs.gentoo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010710105258.D9602@cvs.gentoo.org>; from drobbins@gentoo.org on Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:52:58AM -0600 X-Face: #SH"AGfFc8u[OW5Rp;V;WNnT X-Copyright: 2001 by Michael Conrad Tilstra X-URL: Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org X-Reply-To: michael@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Jul 10 13:21:02 2001 X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:19:06 -0500 X-Archives-Salt: 6eb1b630-860a-4d82-a6fe-05458b6313d3 X-Archives-Hash: 6dff693e40df4042642b059c3dfcb879 On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:52:58AM -0600, Daniel Robbins wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 02:15:26PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote: > > "The Free Standards Group, which includes IBM, Red Hat, TurboLinux and > > Oracle, also fashioned the specification to simplify development for > > independent software vendors and corporations. The group has made Version 1.0 > > of the Linux Standard Base (LSB) available." (And I wondered who could be so > > stupid as to enforce use of RPMs). > > It sounds like someone should start the GLSG -- the Grassroots Linux Standards > Group. why? linux standards are a joke. Hell. Standards of all forms are a joke. Go look into the details of the configure script that cames with almost every source tarball you download. If **ANY** of the standards were standard, we wouldn't need a script to figure out how the system works. Look at most any binary distribution that has existed previously, for linux or any/all unixes. Nearly all of them are completely self contained. And for a user to use them, you just set and environment variable or two, and run. All that Standards are used for is free promotion of the company that wins. Rarely are standards designed, the committees almost always take an existing solution, and go "Hey look! it works! it must be a standard!" (someone is still a little sore from implementing posix and bsd file locking inside of gfs....) -- Michael Tilstra tadpol@tadpol.org You're just jealous because the little voices talk to me!