From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,DMARC_NONE, INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk [139.184.50.12]) by cvs.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F32059FBF for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 05:53:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from tsuny.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk [139.184.50.13] by tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 14Lluz-00079p-00; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:54:25 +0000 Received: from thomasfl by tsuny.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk with local (Exim 1.82 #1) id 14Llux-0000pP-00; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:54:23 +0000 From: Thomas Flavel To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tom Message-ID: <20010125125423.B24460@tsuny.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk> References: <20010124234502.4D5CF51353@cvs.gentoo.org> <20010125015319.G29166@tsuny.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk> <3A700B98.A77BE85F@gottinger.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <3A700B98.A77BE85F@gottinger.de>; from 320095285153-0001@t-online.de on Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:18:48PM +0100 Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jan 25 05:54:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:54:23 +0000 X-Archives-Salt: d824a039-2d69-4c7b-8e8a-7907043b9201 X-Archives-Hash: 40818ae285f87edf6863158a999f180c On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:18:48PM +0100, Achim Gottinger wrote: > Thomas Flavel wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:29:01PM -0600, Bryce Porter wrote: > > > > > > Tom: > > > "I'm just thinking along the lines of a minimum binary system where > > > absolutley needed, and compiling specifically everywhere else? I realise this would > > > be slow to install on slower systems, but, since we're all power users... ;) > > > > > > Seriously though, I do think this would be a nice feature, unless there's > > > some practicality reason I'm missing." > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I think this is a great idea. I heard of a GNU/Linux distrobution that > > > when installed compiled all selected packages from source, making it the > > > most optimized you could get for your specific machine. I think it was > > > called Rock Linux or something. > > > > Not heard of it, but a quick search on google reveals the predicatable url: > > http://www.rocklinux.org, #rocklinux on irc.openprojects.net. > > > > Looks to be faily mature (at least they're past 1.0 ;), supports ppc and alpha > > as well as x86. > > Please send me you ppc, alpha, i64, mips, sparc machines and I will do the ports. :-) I have access to SH3, Arm, possibly Sparc (less possibly ultrasparc :) and ppc, all of which I would like to have running gentoo :) > > > From what I can see it has a binary cd version, with the option > > to compile from source (the same thing I was talking about, if I understand them > > correctly). It describes it's package management as closer to FreeBSD than debian. > > It looks to be quite similar to gentoo to me, although not quite as advanced. > > I took a look at the site and think that we need something similar to cfengine > sometimes. That looks like a great idea; I was wondering about something similar for configuring applications; i.e. some way to save a "theme" for the applications I use (e.g. colours for lynx matching the colours for man pages etc if you see what I mean) > > I thougth about a minimum build system too, while I had to go back to i486 from i686. > There is another project linux-from-scratch (www.lfs.org i think) that creates a > statically linked set > of packages required for build first and then builds the rest with that bin's. Such a > set would require > about 50MB and it is not difficult to make a few modified packages for that. > This build-system could be placed on a gentoo-source cd together with a snapshot of the > port-tree. > Then you whould be able to boot with the source-cd and install a build.tbz2 instead of a > sys.tbz2. > Then you can chroot to that system and build everything from sources. > Additionally this offers the possibility to build gentoo from within another > linux-distro. > > How do you guys think about that? Sounds excellent to me :) - Tom