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From: "Gavin" <gavin@vess.com>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 19:46:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New drivers category in portage (Was[gentoo-dev] macos mess)
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Ok, if I define /usr/portage/<categories> as a set of categorized =
ebuilds for various software "packages", then I can define "dimensions" =
as abstract groupings of existing Gentoo portage "<categories>".  Using =
this terminology, for the purposes of my prior suggestion/question =
regarding filtering out the "bloat" (unnecessary bandwidth consumed) =
during an "emerge sync", I further define the following as descriptions =
of candidate "dimensions":

o TYPE, as in "drivers-${TYPE}"
o "<categories>"
o requires X
o requires KDE
o requires Gnome
o requires "platform"
o requires a specific type of kernel (e.g. linux, freebsd, openbsd), or =
subtype (e.g. linux/mm)
.
.
o many other possibilities

I'm primarily interested in using Gentoo as a server platform.  Large =
portions of the portage tree might be irrelevant to those with various =
specialized purposes.  My hypothesis centers around the idea that =
"<categories>" form an inadequate set of "dimensions" by which users =
might utilize as criteria for exclusion during "emerge sync".  =
Furthermore, as more "<categories>" and ebuilds are added, the manual =
effort required to update a RSYNC_EXCLUDEFROM list rises along with the =
bandwidth consumed.

Cheers,
Gavin

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Donnie Berkholz" <spyderous@gentoo.org>
To: <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New drivers category in portage =
(Was[gentoo-dev] macos mess)

On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 17:38, Gavin wrote:
> If we're adding another dimension of things that are irrelevant to my =
platform,

I'm not addressing the rest of your email. But we're not talking about
adding another dimension, merely expanding an existing one (categories)
and moving some packages in other categories to a potentially more
appropriate location.
--=20
Donnie Berkholz
Gentoo Linux


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