From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, DMARC_REJECT,INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from [209.167.237.254] (helo=mercury.phoenix-interactive.com) by cvs.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 15os48-0007bH-00 for gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2001 13:52:24 -0600 Received: by murcury with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:49:51 -0400 Message-ID: <1DCB85BD45DED211B12D009027279E4F47700B@murcury> From: Sean Mitchell To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] NAT iptables info MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Oct 3 13:53:02 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:49:41 -0400 X-Archives-Salt: 25a20022-58fb-4418-b50c-7efa9a940def X-Archives-Hash: 6bb927f73854072339e1cc50d9551c7e > From: Donny Davies [mailto:woodchip@gentoo.org] > Nope. Sorry. Im not in agreement in this at all. Of course, > its open to debate, > Im not saying I know everything, nor Im 100% right. Go ahead, > debate away. > But I dont want any part of it, Ill tell you that! > > If you dont understand the ramnifications of packet > filetering, NAT, etc then > you have *no* business running this software. We are not > Microsoft or Wingate, > opening yuor machine to a wider world. I have to agree in principle here, FWIW. The answer to this problem of making the functionality available to everyone is to make sure things are clearly and thoroughly documented. I think we are best served by following the OpenBSD example of a secure default install and then let the users change configuration to suit. Cheers, Sean