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boundary="xKz7EA4rTZmW2Mc1IGfv1QrdQF4kfgssE"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael Everitt To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <199e45da-d9d6-7d64-5dbe-6831c3c5c856@veremit.xyz> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/ References: <1567619929.63486fef43c2e0dee3b4128db18fd1a6b4bf9381.tupone@gentoo> <6221fceb9ac4f3451a3a43e39141102f489a830d.camel@gentoo.org> <1860939b-1751-061d-c593-59deb20f05e7@gentoo.org> <7dd9f947-b3b1-a685-29df-0a59a19ebcbe@gentoo.org> <2f49bf393b04f1b514817317c2ea12f8e8e586df.camel@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <2f49bf393b04f1b514817317c2ea12f8e8e586df.camel@gentoo.org> --xKz7EA4rTZmW2Mc1IGfv1QrdQF4kfgssE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/09/19 20:47, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Thu, 2019-09-05 at 15:14 +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: >> On 2019-09-05 06:02, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: >>>> In my case I am working on a new mysql eclass to outsource pkg_confi= g >>>> function which is shared at least between dev-db/mysql and >>>> dev-db/percona-server (and maybe dev-db/mariadb). >>>> >>>> For this new eclass I would say it's a "per-package" eclass and woul= d >>>> probably have skipped mailing list review, too. >>> Everyone can skip as many paragraphs as they want, and then apply wha= t's >>> said later to something said way earlier. >> Could you please stop adding any bad interpretation? >> >> That was a serious question. For you, it's pretty clear. I am showing >> you, that for me, it isn't pretty clear. When you believe I skipped >> important lines in my quote please outline what I have missed and I wi= ll >> take the blame. >> >> >>>> If you want to make it clear, change "should" to "must" and maybe >>>> clarify per-package exception and limit to update case if you believ= e >>>> that really *all* *new* eclasses must be send to mailing list. >>> Submit a part. This is a community effort. Nitpicking and complaini= ng >>> doesn't make things better. Fixing them does. >> Sure, but at the moment *you* are the one who are saying it's a MUST. = I >> don't understand it that way and I am fine with my understanding that >> per-package eclasses *should* but *must not* get reviewed through >> mailing list. In other words I am asking you to show us where it's >> written that *all* *new* eclasses *must* get reviewed through mailing >> list. I cannot find something like that in current devmanual (the link= >> you showed). >> >> Maybe I am still missing something after reading >> https://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-writing/ 3 times... >> >> In case I am not missing anything I suggested to improve devmanual in >> case you believe this should be a hard requirement. Because at the >> moment I don't believe it should be a hard requirement, *I* will not >> propose any changes. >> > So to summarize, instead of working together in order to follow a well-= > established policy, you prefer to do whatever you find convenient > at the moment, as long as you justify it by finding some document whose= > wording does not perfectly prevent you from bending the policy? Yes, > that sounds like a very good attitude for a Council member. > Pot meet Kettle .. --xKz7EA4rTZmW2Mc1IGfv1QrdQF4kfgssE-- --31oalXNB84WhoUXg2KlKaJX1I9yREbir6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJdcWbeAAoJEEwwM0+TwiNxW2AP/jzXuwnhsm5cmTzd6UslLxH+ 0EOHQM26n6yIFmQQxjk6LS+m7h2RBh0DH/SSeE3EWgNZAfMPTPWy659FhY08ICf1 2YM9LpR2cXY1uB4QCn+4muaz+jrYBwJCHVhBfzNegqt2tJiA1Tdmp/5Er5+kN9q7 H6vCD475+6B4O4PZL9naX1r6cxqMwSzEQXE1cONOZO+vJ4elbgpvB5+KEFqK+Xi5 AY3fkr24f/J2cx6qMwifGq+k4eP6JC/vm3hlY8sWhTVCJcd51Z9GEN4s4kXhPPDZ mCN4Vb+WoPZQB/5eNf2KDHAu7LOWWN6OIzwbX3xR0CiBGt0K48+VwKAcj5735wn1 qHo/qoQaCXrG2Gi/O6L6DJZUgBccZuGXWAoniVM25wuG/8MwjHprOMwI+R4Utqhp RFa/frhLXl12QuiArge6RX2Jeqp3GzeKMODLGZ/3XtW5EHFAWTwtV3Dc0Pw1cjfM iN+F1l1mFu2wfE89eXhURZuZeh6W83poJNvFOuQLquvAvJfvxcrWKftCG/1bzSJd Q0qanIpDzgpxMp4kC97qxf64pM/0USsCqy794Q4m2Dmz/og+6BA810BnxgurLc6/ KZj3A3n3YW4WPaDNXrU4Z3d+o9od5hw+bSSjyqm2XUd4M+PiHEiOdlAN15XnBy+v XYabPmLTlPCsF79rVtKz =yl6i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --31oalXNB84WhoUXg2KlKaJX1I9yREbir6--