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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] mtime preservation
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:59:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19213.46817.620937.656202@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091125221327.324e11fb@snowcone>

>>>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
> Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
>> That's a great explanation (thanks, I now know the details to the
>> degree I'd be interested), but what was asked for was examples of
>> breakage, aka actual bugs.

> Why? You can easily look and see that it's broken.

Only for a suitable definition of "broken".

> Examples will merely be dismissed as one-off cases that can be
> worked around, or as relying upon a string of coincidences that will
> "obviously" never really happen, right up until they do, at which
> point they'll be dismissed with a WORKSFORME.

Real examples would be issues like bugs 83877 [1] or 263387 [2].
Nothing that could be easily dismissed or worked around. Both issues
are fixed with Portage since a long time.

I don't know of any example where non-preservation of nanosecond
timestamps would cause problems.

> What you have is a proof that it's broken, which is far better than
> an example.

So we have a proven theorem, but unfortunately the cases where it is
applicable form an empty set. ;-)

Ulrich

[1] <http://bugs.gentoo.org/83877#c36>
[2] <http://bugs.gentoo.org/263387>



  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-26  0:07 UTC|newest]

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2009-11-23 18:49                   ` [gentoo-dev] mtime preservation Denis Dupeyron
2009-11-23 20:39                     ` Zac Medico
2009-11-23 23:19                     ` Brian Harring
2009-11-24 14:26                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-11-24 22:21                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-26  1:28                         ` Brian Harring
2009-11-26 12:41                           ` David Leverton
2009-11-26 13:21                             ` Brian Harring
2009-11-26 18:22                               ` David Leverton
2009-11-26 15:15                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-25 21:13                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Denis Dupeyron
2009-11-25 21:27                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-25 21:52                         ` Duncan
2009-11-25 22:13                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-25 22:59                             ` Ulrich Mueller [this message]
2009-11-26  0:15                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-26  0:49                                 ` Zac Medico
2009-11-26  1:14                                   ` Brian Harring
2009-11-26  5:26                                     ` Zac Medico
2009-11-26  5:33                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-11-26  5:35                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2009-11-26  5:30                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-11-26 12:35                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " David Leverton
2009-11-26 12:40                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-11-26 21:55                                         ` Zac Medico
2009-11-26 13:31                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2009-11-26 15:24                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-26  7:59                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-26  9:07                                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-26  9:54                                     ` Łukasz Michalik
2009-11-26 11:47                                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-26 15:27                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-26 15:21                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-11-26  7:51                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-26  5:07                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2009-11-26  5:04                             ` Duncan
2009-11-28 20:57                               ` Peter Hjalmarsson

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