From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD80113877A for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64C68E0A83; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.168]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B642E0A6C for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.136] (helo=smtp5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XNgoH-0006de-CO for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:27:09 +0200 Received: from 53579160.cm-6-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.145.96] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XNgoH-0005ri-3t for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:27:09 +0200 Received: from andromeda.localnet (unknown [10.20.13.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA8F84B for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:26:46 +0200 (CEST) From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] systemd profiles Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 13:27:08 +0200 Message-ID: <1863932.qRLQGIk0OP@andromeda> Organization: Antarean User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (Linux/3.14.14-gentoo; KDE/4.12.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <5401080E.8090904@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Ziggo-spambar: ---- X-Ziggo-spamscore: -4.9 X-Ziggo-spamreport: ALL_TRUSTED=-1,BAYES_00=-1.9,PROLO_TRUST_RDNS=-3,RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Archives-Salt: 281f1bd2-64f7-4347-a845-6b1655a5ac6e X-Archives-Hash: 4e466a7d2a469cc76be71b6c1c1b2508 On Friday, August 29, 2014 10:41:51 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have a simple question: why do we have systemd subprofiles only in gnome > > and kde profiles? > > > > Could we add systemd subprofiles also to default/linux/$arch/13.0/ and > > desktop (and any other profiles where it makes sense)? > I'm not sure systemd profiles actually make that much sense these > days. To install systemd from a stage3 you basically just need to set > USE=systemd and do an emerge -uDN world. We're actually getting close > to the point where you would pick an init system the way you pick a > kernel or cron implementation during install. Not sure if this idea has been discussed before, but: Wouldn't it be an idea to have a "virtual/init" which depends on 1 of: - OpenRC - Systemd - ..... (whichever other one) Put "virtual/init" in the @system-set. Don't put either OpenRC or Systemd in the stage3-file. (Or have 2 stage3 files, one with OpenRC and one with Systemd) Then, during the install, the user has to choose one of these and install it. The virtual could even use the "systemd" USE-flag to decide which one to use. -- Joost