From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QAKAV-0004me-Ia for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:53:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F25F41C094; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B241C0A0 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ugly-elf.localnet (ck4-ge1.ap.jaw.cz [77.95.45.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: scarabeus) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2D591B406A for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:52:04 +0000 (UTC) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tom=E1=3F_Chv=E1tal?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:51:55 +0200 Message-Id: <1862409.dc8aBZ6kWJ@ugly-elf> User-Agent: KMail/4.6 beta5 (Linux/2.6.38-gentoo-r1-r500; KDE/4.6.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20110413181538.GA2894@linux1> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1905944.jfG2QmvMIZ"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 52480fe006a23c9995be13bed9839110 --nextPart1905944.jfG2QmvMIZ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Thursday 14 of April 2011 13:32:04 Kfir Lavi wrote: > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the written= stuff. >=20 > If I do this, I'm sure a lot more Gentoo users do the same. > So do expect people rebooting the machine without checking what your = have > wrote. > This can be a major headache if you have few systems that are doing a= uto > updates. > I would solve this issue by stopping the emerge and getting the atten= tion of > the user. > If I don't get the attention of the user, no openrc will be installed= . > It should be something like emerge -C ... 1 .2 3 4 5... >=20 > To conclude, you can't issue such a change without proper confirmatio= n from > the user. >=20 This was discussed multiple times, news items are to be read. Users ignore elog informations/web announcements/... so it was agreed t= hat=20 news item is agressive enough to user so they must read it. If they don't do so it is just their fault. And no runtime changing for portage where it expect some input is serio= usly=20 stupid idea, most of us script updates in batch and noone would actualy= read=20 it. Never the less as I said we expect user to read that stuff and if he do= es not=20 he is on his own due to his dumb approach. --=20 Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Chv=C3=A1tal Gentoo Linux Developer [Cluster/Council/KDE/QA/Sci/X11] E-Mail : scarabeus@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 94A4 5CCD 85D3 DE24 FE99 F924 1C1E 9CDE 0341 4587 GnuPG ID : 03414587 --nextPart1905944.jfG2QmvMIZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk2m0csACgkQHB6c3gNBRYfNhQCfaEvdEtutgUZ8UieWwZD0KaU0 0PEAoIguCdFrjfz+RUf4zfy2a1LGU7dZ =+1vf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1905944.jfG2QmvMIZ--