From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044B913877A for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D38DFE09DF; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rrzmta1.uni-regensburg.de (rrzmta1.uni-regensburg.de [194.94.155.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C88CAE09AA for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rrzmta1.uni-regensburg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 8107C3619A; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 13:59:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kailua.localnet (pc1011302446.uni-regensburg.de [132.199.96.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: hua59129) by rrzmta1.uni-regensburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A5E2B37CD8; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 13:58:33 +0200 (CEST) From: "Andreas K. Huettel" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Ian Stakenvicius Subject: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: =dev-lang/perl-5.12* and family Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 13:57:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1855889.PNdYk8xfIb@kailua> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.2 (Linux/3.10.32-gentoo; KDE/4.13.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <53B17F3E.7040002@gentoo.org> References: <201406291749.36305.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <201406301046.27513.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <53B17F3E.7040002@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1474239.GYD38AKgNs"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 798f1417-16b9-46cc-bf66-abca2d6148a8 X-Archives-Hash: 9c6ec1e8179b45c7acd4414130e3d6dc --nextPart1474239.GYD38AKgNs Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" perl-core/Switch is now stabilized on "amd64 ppc x86", so this should b= e=20 fixed. > On 30/06/14 04:46 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > [snip!] * As Fabian pointed out, perl-core/Switch-2.160.0 should > > still go stable. Fine with me (but I can't read your minds about > > future stabilizations, and the virtual only had ~arch reverse > > deps). >=20 > There shouldn't be any need to read minds, here -- if the previous > stable perl had this capability, then the new stable perl should too > (whether that be via internal or external module package). If it > doesn't, then the upgraded-new-stable-perl isn't a valid replacement > for the stable version it previously replaced. Remember that there > could be who knows what scripts on end-user systems that need this > functionality, and if it's suddenly not available because the only > thing that provides it is ~arch, then they are not left in a happy st= ate.. I'm not fully buying this argument, since it would prevent us ever stab= ilizing=20 a package where an upstream feature is removed.=20 (Switch was first released with perl v5.7.3 and removed from v5.13.1. S= o there=20 should have been lots of time to update dependency declarations or pull= in the=20 external package if needed for non-portage scripts.) > It would be nice if something like a pkgmove be done on the virtual, > though, upon its elimintation; anyone that installed the virtual to > obtain perl Switch shouldn't have to unmerge and specifically emerge > perl-core/Switch. I'm not sure if pkgmove itself supports this, thou= gh.. I dont think this is what pkgmove does (this would move the "no install= ed=20 files" vdb entry of the virtual to the perl-core name... we would need = a=20 functionality that only touches the world file alone...) =2D-=20 Andreas K. 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