From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA46415806E for ; Tue, 16 May 2023 17:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F039AE0821; Tue, 16 May 2023 17:55:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA7B0E02D2 for ; Tue, 16 May 2023 17:55:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Andreas Sturmlechner To: Ulrich Mueller Cc: gentoo-dev , pr@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News Item v3: Plasma Profile to enable PipeWire, Wayland support Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 19:55:04 +0200 Message-ID: <1852197.tdWV9SEqCh@tuxbook> In-Reply-To: References: <5933809.lOV4Wx5bFT@tuxbook> <4801800.GXAFRqVoOG@tuxbook> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2143495.irdbgypaU6"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: ce1d6eba-679a-49dd-8cf5-d371da22a6e9 X-Archives-Hash: 06e2684532034d201a3858b56a39ce5b --nextPart2143495.irdbgypaU6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; protected-headers="v1" From: Andreas Sturmlechner To: Ulrich Mueller Cc: gentoo-dev , pr@gentoo.org Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 19:55:04 +0200 Message-ID: <1852197.tdWV9SEqCh@tuxbook> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Restructured, not necessarily smaller, but maybe easier to follow. Title: Plasma Profile to enable PipeWire, Wayland support Author: Andreas Sturmlechner Posted: 2023-05-20 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 2.0 Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd/merged-usr Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/plasma Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/plasma/systemd Reasons ======= Gentoo's Plasma profile has not had any sound server enabled since the days of KDE's own aRts. As the way we output sound has changed dramatically in the years since - using wireless or often several devices, dynamically connected and shared between multiple systems, a modern desktop environment is expected to handle this effortlessly by default. In Wayland sessions, the video functionality of PipeWire is not only used for screensharing but also to take screenshots and -recordings or simply to cast window content onto task managers' window previews. This is why PipeWire and Wayland enablement are happening at the same time. Plasma Wayland support has come a long way and we consider it stable enough for daily use with a lot - if not all - systems, even if some known papercuts remain [1]. Therefore it makes sense for Plasma profile to provide sane default settings. Changes ======= New global USE flags enabled: pipewire, pulseaudio, screencast, wayland New package.use default: media-video/pipewire[sound-server] We want broad sound server support in packages, and these settings will make PipeWire act as our PulseAudio server where there is no native PipeWire support. Impact On Happy X Users ======================= Minor. Most dependencies were already required with kde-plasma/plasma-desktop and its dependencies. Upcoming stable versions of kde-apps/spectacle and kde-apps/krfb will depend on (K)PipeWire unconditionally. No one will lose their X session, but will have the option to easily log in to a working Wayland session at any time. User Action Required ==================== In order to enact all changes: emerge -1avUD @world Check out how to configure PipeWire for your purpose [2][3] In order to keep a PulseAudio or ALSA-only setup: Invert above new USE flag settings as needed, see also [2]. In order to avoid media-video/pipewire completely: This can only be achieved by losing basic task manager, screenshot/screen recording/sharing functions as provided by Plasma and KDE applications. [1] https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers [2] https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2022-07-29-pipewire-sound-server.html [3] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PipeWire --nextPart2143495.irdbgypaU6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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