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From: Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org>
To: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>, pr@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News Item v3: Plasma Profile to enable PipeWire, Wayland support
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 19:55:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1852197.tdWV9SEqCh@tuxbook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <w6gbkikqswe.fsf@uni-mainz.de>

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Restructured, not necessarily smaller, but maybe easier to follow.


Title: Plasma Profile to enable PipeWire, Wayland support
Author: Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org>
Posted: 2023-05-20
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 2.0
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/plasma/systemd/merged-usr
Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/plasma
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Reasons
=======

Gentoo's Plasma profile has not had any sound server enabled since the days of 
KDE's own aRts. As the way we output sound has changed dramatically in the 
years since - using wireless or often several devices, dynamically connected 
and shared between multiple systems, a modern desktop environment is expected 
to handle this effortlessly by default.

In Wayland sessions, the video functionality of PipeWire is not only used for 
screensharing but also to take screenshots and -recordings or simply to cast 
window content onto task managers' window previews. This is why PipeWire and 
Wayland enablement are happening at the same time.

Plasma Wayland support has come a long way and we consider it stable enough 
for daily use with a lot - if not all - systems, even if some known papercuts 
remain [1]. Therefore it makes sense for Plasma profile to provide sane default 
settings.


Changes
=======

New global USE flags enabled: pipewire, pulseaudio, screencast, wayland
New package.use default: media-video/pipewire[sound-server]

We want broad sound server support in packages, and these settings will make
PipeWire act as our PulseAudio server where there is no native PipeWire 
support.


Impact On Happy X Users
=======================

Minor. Most dependencies were already required with kde-plasma/plasma-desktop 
and its dependencies. Upcoming stable versions of kde-apps/spectacle and 
kde-apps/krfb will depend on (K)PipeWire unconditionally.

No one will lose their X session, but will have the option to easily log in to 
a working Wayland session at any time.


User Action Required
====================

In order to enact all changes:

    emerge -1avUD @world
    Check out how to configure PipeWire for your purpose [2][3]

In order to keep a PulseAudio or ALSA-only setup:

    Invert above new USE flag settings as needed, see also [2].

In order to avoid media-video/pipewire completely:

    This can only be achieved by losing basic task manager, screenshot/screen
    recording/sharing functions as provided by Plasma and KDE applications.


[1] https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers
[2] https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2022-07-29-pipewire-sound-server.html
[3] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PipeWire

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-16 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-16 11:35 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Plasma Profile to switch on PipeWire, Wayland support Andreas Sturmlechner
2023-05-16 12:16 ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News Item v2: " Andreas Sturmlechner
2023-05-16 13:59   ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-05-16 14:04     ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2023-05-16 17:55     ` Andreas Sturmlechner [this message]
2023-05-16 18:15       ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News Item v3: Plasma Profile to enable " Sam James
2023-05-16 19:01         ` Toralf Förster
2023-05-16 19:09           ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2023-05-16 19:38             ` Toralf Förster
2024-08-29 21:08           ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News Item: KDE Plasma 6.1.4 and Gear 24.05.2 Upgrade Andreas Sturmlechner
2024-08-29 21:43             ` Sam James
2023-05-17 20:52         ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News Item v3: Plasma Profile to enable PipeWire, Wayland support Andreas Sturmlechner
2023-05-22  7:18       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan

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