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 1.4"
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--On Wednesday, June 25, 2003 04:22:45 -0700 Matt Thrailkill=20
<xwred1@xwredwing.net> wrote:

Firstly, this is not a flame. Please give me the benefit of the doubt in=20
that respect :)

> Just a meager user comment.  I run Gentoo "stable" on my desktop and
> laptop, but it seems like things still change a bit too much and too
> largely to where I'd feel comfortable deploying it on a server.

There is no gentoo stable in the same way that Obsd has stable. Obsd stable =

can pretty much be guaranteed to work and play happily. Ebuilds are marked=20
stable or unstable based on whether the _ebuild_ is known to be reliable,=20
not the package which the ebuild installs.

There is no indication inside of portage as to whether a program is stable=20
or not, other than extreme cases where ebuilds are masked because the app=20
is very broken. Its not possible for us to say "this is a stable platform"=20
for a gentoo "system" can include any number of programs that we may or may =

not have written ebuilds for which can affect the system.

Obsd peeps know exactly what apps are installed in their base system, so=20
they can mark the stuff stable when they're fairly sure the base system=20
doesn't blow up.

Also, I think you misunderstand "releases". 1.4 is a release of an install=20
CD and maybe GRP. Thats it. It makes no difference to the actual system=20
once you start running emerge sync you'll be back in the same place as=20
someone who installed with a 1.3 install CD and has been running emerge=20
sync.

Rob

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