From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] special small-files USE flag without effect on dependencies: [ unicode ]
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 14:57:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <177a7913d39c590f43a8261b96ebf155b642d6a8.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91f35079-037f-45aa-8041-c964e418818b@gmail.com>
On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 14:09 -0500, Eli Schwartz wrote:
>
> Asking out of genuine ignorance: what kind of direct behavioral changes
> occur as a result of setting or unsetting USE=ipv6.
One example I know off the top of my head is dev-lang/php where
USE=ipv6 isn't entirely about ipv6 connectivity (although it does do
that). It also augments some of the user-facing PHP language functions
with ipv6 support. Having them enabled is not a big deal, and PHP is a
programming language so you may say that it's atypical, but... for a
package that gets a new CVE every week and sits on the public web, I'd
just rather have it off?
Unicode support is similar in my mind. Adding "unicode support" to a
package might be easy (at the cost of some extra memory), but dealing
with the consequences of unicode is harder. Maybe I don't want to worry
about homoglyphs and bidirectional text when I'm validating a hostname?
Life is just simpler without it, if you know you don't need it. Things
also tend to be more space and memory efficient with features compiled
out; not to mention that the compile times themselves are improved.
You're still pulling in "extra dependencies," in a sense, even if
they're in the same tarball.
I really don't want to fall into a trap where I make up reasons why
other people might want to do things and everyone says my reasons are
stupid. Everyone is going to have different reasons, and we have a lot
of users who are our users because they're edge cases.
It's not unfathomably stupid to build a package without ipv6 or unicode
support (whatever that means), and there are no small files to worry
about, so I don't think they deserve the special negative treatment.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-09 19:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-09 15:23 [gentoo-dev] special small-files USE flag without effect on dependencies: [ unicode ] Andrey Grozin
2024-02-09 15:43 ` Mike Gilbert
2024-02-09 15:54 ` Ionen Wolkens
2024-02-09 16:07 ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-02-09 16:57 ` Mike Gilbert
2024-02-09 17:17 ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-02-09 18:40 ` Mike Gilbert
2024-02-09 19:09 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-09 19:57 ` Michael Orlitzky [this message]
2024-02-09 21:04 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-09 21:25 ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-02-09 21:56 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-09 22:56 ` stefan11111
2024-02-10 0:03 ` Matt Jolly
2024-02-10 11:48 ` David Seifert
2024-02-10 17:26 ` stefan11111
2024-02-11 0:58 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-10 11:22 ` orbea
2024-02-11 0:58 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-10 0:04 ` Sam James
2024-02-11 0:42 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-11 3:46 ` Sam James
2024-02-11 3:56 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-12 4:54 ` Andrey Grozin
2024-02-10 0:00 ` Sam James
2024-02-09 23:52 ` Sam James
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