From: Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 21:10:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <175076460.jlIWfiDEfW@tuxbrain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83443938-904e-7915-6e5f-c8e2d3ae61f0@gentoo.org>
On Friday, 6 December 2019 20:47:31 CET Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
> On 2019-12-06 17:44, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> > 1. Keep the old version installed.
> > 2. Emit a confusing error message to the user since the use-dependency
> > on dev-python/example[python_targets_python2_7] cannot be resolved
> > with the latest visible version.
>
> I don't fully understand #2 to be honest but yes, you will be cut off
> from latest version at some point. Same in PHP.
Considering that above statement, I would expect a bit more humility than the
following:
> Maybe someday one of those responsible will admit that this step was not
> a thoughtful and good decision and promise not to do it that way again
> and I'll get over it. Who knows. :)
Just so we're on the same page, a recent example of what some people
suggesting to keep py27 ad nauseam are asking users to deal with:
# emerge -uDpv @world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB
WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency
conflict:
dev-python/sphinx:0
(dev-python/sphinx-2.0.1:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts
with
>=dev-python/
sphinx-1.5.3[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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by (dev-python/sphinxcontrib-websupport-1.1.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
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by (dev-python/cython-0.29.4:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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by (dev-python/flask-babelex-0.9.3:0/0::gentoo, installed)
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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dev-python/sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),-
python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-)] required by
(dev-python/backports-functools-lru-cache-1.4-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
by (dev-python/Babel-2.6.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
by (dev-python/greenlet-0.4.15:0/0::gentoo, installed)
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python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required by (dev-python/flask-wtf-0.14.2-
r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-)] required by (dev-python/
pexpect-4.2.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/
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python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-
python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-
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sqlparse-0.2.4:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
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dev-python/
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
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dev-python/
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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sphinx-1.3.1[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
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r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
by (dev-python/nbformat-4.4.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-
python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required by (dev-python/
cairocffi-0.8.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=dev-python/sphinx-1.3.1-
r1[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
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dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
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dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
by (dev-python/sphinxcontrib-github-alt-1.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/
sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
by (dev-python/paramiko-2.4.2:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/
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python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
by (dev-python/pallets-sphinx-themes-1.1.2:0/0::gentoo, installed)
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sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),-
python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),-
python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-
python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] required
by (dev-python/py-1.5.4:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/sphinx[python_targets_python2_7(-),-
python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-)] required by
(dev-python/futures-3.1.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-06 20:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-05 13:42 [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-12-05 13:55 ` Rich Freeman
2019-12-05 13:59 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2019-12-05 14:24 ` Rich Freeman
2019-12-05 14:34 ` William Breathitt Gray
2019-12-05 14:40 ` Aaron Bauman
2019-12-06 6:53 ` Kent Fredric
2020-01-12 22:07 ` Joshua Kinard
2020-01-12 22:17 ` David Seifert
2020-01-12 22:29 ` Joshua Kinard
2020-01-12 22:32 ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2020-01-12 22:43 ` Joshua Kinard
2020-01-12 22:46 ` David Seifert
2020-01-12 22:55 ` Joshua Kinard
2020-01-12 23:17 ` David Seifert
2020-01-13 0:21 ` William Hubbs
2020-01-13 0:44 ` Joshua Kinard
2020-01-13 7:22 ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2020-01-13 6:52 ` Michał Górny
2020-01-14 6:45 ` Joshua Kinard
2019-12-05 20:31 ` David Seifert
2019-12-05 20:56 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-12-05 22:23 ` David Seifert
2019-12-05 22:41 ` Rich Freeman
2019-12-06 8:11 ` Mart Raudsepp
2019-12-06 10:48 ` David Seifert
2019-12-06 13:06 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-12-06 13:52 ` Rich Freeman
2019-12-06 15:48 ` Mike Gilbert
2019-12-06 16:12 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-12-06 16:44 ` Mike Gilbert
2019-12-06 19:47 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-12-06 20:10 ` Andreas Sturmlechner [this message]
2019-12-06 20:28 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-12-08 10:28 ` Alexis Ballier
2019-12-06 20:30 ` Michael 'veremitz' Everitt
2019-12-07 8:04 ` Kent Fredric
2019-12-06 16:35 ` Mart Raudsepp
2019-12-06 16:43 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-12-05 14:36 ` Aaron Bauman
2019-12-05 16:03 ` Andreas K. Huettel
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