From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A948E138334 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 20:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B098E093B; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 20:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0ADF9E092D for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 20:43:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=earthlink.net; s=dk12062016; t=1576528996; bh=BJxpKBiqtD8tiiQlj37tK7om5b0H+Lj7oFTB vvei5D0=; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date: User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace: X-Originating-IP; b=Mior/evsTTX13LwNY5zyIgVdFOKrL+89xRR2+ptLbtSLeE wa1F0+5tONwfCPVwphu3nOlFi9S30DvSfVw5lrbA6FOcNsgcv15Dg6aBAXgXe3W5j1c VLl0b4S42tOVHCDcxtGWqbnHI8cTEZCbW3yFUw2Z2TfcAVTJGwTdXB7awZ1MmC2hZIx iU49byys5T63BN1BK8vI02iXJwCwJfr0g3MC9k4VTO47uhaVggEpyyAx2/jBpePQ9oS U+PwZluxq27D5DTcT+q0M/poaKCWP2JqIMKoHcP5BWRF7p+BJJnrxZLvYhuL0Lwj69H k7sNRW34KpTqS/hw9D/oGtk74zEg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk12062016; d=earthlink.net; b=O/wxeKPmxW2HqBhTzQp9FcJ6xD2fZwJKMC+a7Vkd10QMXoBoI4zZ3n8l/18xXm3CLdgXFPK5RnxE+gZSngPpbYnKEKIMB7+6ZbSHO968zI7e4H4PYJ4yP4SLpolgEtGyXg/lv0ScszNf0Xd5/Zc2pAngBxOv3yNywBPGmJx0nUexPIJAq4LcyxGIhIrhSIZbUC7f7AVmgSicnRLt2LTOz0R3zDNasQiRif6ik81EIU8DvrCj/v6Al9se1S//kLlhiLFV3X7EJtNavNkK8IMDxEJGyqtoE5r3tImmIb9yiwmchavDekidPOJfyUg3RphlC8bxk0YzQYksU2G5qWfESA==; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.206.115.13] (helo=[192.168.1.7]) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4) (envelope-from ) id 1igxD1-0005qa-15 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2019 15:43:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: acct-user/... modifies existing user sometimes To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <51d34968-f80e-1fb8-462c-460785a862e2@earthlink.net> From: The Bit Pit Message-ID: <170f31da-78be-a963-10d5-49e4e7c3a6d1@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 14:43:14 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-ELNK-Trace: 7df113ffba112561fa3f6473f66ab73a7e972de0d01da9404a718860b8678c06009c14fb1f4a26e7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.206.115.13 X-Archives-Salt: 717ea276-9cd1-47a9-800e-4a9465726bd7 X-Archives-Hash: 6fca08b14a24798813859d213ed97ad7 On 12/15/19 5:31 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > Without more information, all I can say is that there's probably a > better way to do whatever these users are doing that doesn't involve > modifying a system user. But regardless, Michał's answer is the right > one if you decide that you do want to modify it. > Your observation is correct. This package I am working with "mythtv" has been around for years. Users customize it incorrectly and once working are reluctant to change it. They still want to upgrade to get features/bug fixes. I am guilty of improper use of the mythtv user myself. There is a lot of old documentation that uses it improperly. I am reluctant to introduce unexpected changes to old systems. This update will force consideration that maybe the mythtv user is being misused; while manually restoring (or creating a custom overlay) after acct-user/mythtv is emerged on the system. Once installed acct-user/mythtv is not usually reinstalled. It should not need manual restoration often.