From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3800C158089 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 17:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74D5F2BC04B; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 17:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from james.steelbluetech.co.uk (james.steelbluetech.co.uk [92.63.139.228]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 343742BC025 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 17:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ukinbox.ecrypt.net (hq2.ehuk.net [10.0.10.2]) by james.steelbluetech.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8D6BFC13 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2023 18:51:25 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 james.steelbluetech.co.uk 9D8D6BFC13 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ehuk.net; s=default; t=1694713885; bh=uMEQuz+xNif5YUiV+K3yC0+Tx0Dg9OAxxnrOmS7iB8Q=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To:From; b=hLv7bOzcGrCUuZvb+d24N9asaKgpLAVjKr3aoKAayNbeBJius2h85lkMfrT5dMvZI Z14GmePjRJLqm9xUvkGbTrqrFJKQ1JvjEo1KodC5pJId8UfeGW7SxL9X5dmn24gG1m REzsW9E3bQ6MnPmVqRz+vBTBMrVvsmB2fZPn/zqifYbR1CEggn2xp7lyNcY08kaGqh w2KU+bPq5+cV51snbxtw6qQ2Cm/9MssGJ4AgpO4rboEhtLwJeaS4RdkQdoTix7Y0lz amUacvvR2AP9zoP9wjZ2ixuDKEpcvclSIBPsPMLl1vrOIQ2in8Ca3Z1fXojW63iq7D UOa2G2/S8rtPQ== Message-ID: <16f1134a792600779ea0dc6b4ce82f8b.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> In-Reply-To: References: <7802203.lOV4Wx5bFT@kona> <92dfbb91650e4fe9c82268ccddf8b0ab.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <4270953.Sgy9Pd6rRy@pinacolada> <25616924cf66471fbd1075753551dffa.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <7B549F95-5EEA-4DD3-A046-AA6F2C7B6349@gentoo.org> <5aa46e8fd2c09e8d54c6a9ec71725529.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <6e35ba9b-a55b-4b36-9d79-96faa5fb1dc6@gentoo.org> <0daf33d92cd33094b88c0411a16a63ac.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> <8fff234d3e24b28923aaac0866ca78af.squirrel@ukinbox.ecrypt.net> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 18:51:25 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev From: "Eddie Chapman" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang X-Archives-Salt: d6ce58e0-2b55-4a29-a898-bb7167e81ffd X-Archives-Hash: f42c41114ec6b65447f29a6d7a6530d7 Alex Boag-Munroe wrote: > On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 18:20, Eddie Chapman wrote: > > >> However, I believe what I'm proposing would not have >> the result you're predicting as it would no longer be falsely promising >> something it cannot deliver, >> > So you propose to uncouple it as a provider of virtual/libudev? What's > your plan for things that depend on that? > Perhaps a solution using a use flag might be needed. Maybe "oldapi", default unset of course. I don't know, I'm sure there will be things to work out if this is going to be attempted, and ultimately if it's impossible to do entirely within the package itself (I'm certainly not proposing something that needs changes all over the place or in other packages to work) well then it can't be done and that's that.