From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FE8js-0004pr-2J for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:34:20 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k1SHWH0x000400; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:32:17 GMT Received: from smtp.top-hosting.cz (gw.top-hosting.cz [81.0.254.91]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k1SHTfu0009594 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:29:41 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.top-hosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4785DA48B0F for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:30:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.top-hosting.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.top-hosting.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11474-14-4 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:30:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from NOTORCOMP (21.217.broadband4.iol.cz [85.71.217.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.top-hosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB56A4879F for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:30:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:30:24 +0100 From: Jakub Moc X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16410671399.20060228183024@gentoo.org> To: Ciaran McCreesh Subject: Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role In-Reply-To: <20060228170954.37396045@snowdrop.home> References: <20060226222217.GB17257@aerie.halcy0n.com> <1140997703.12229.166.camel@demandred.gnqs.org> <20060227003413.GE17257@aerie.halcy0n.com> <20060227170834.075e9388@snowdrop.home> <1141071970.804.19.camel@demandred.gnqs.org> <20060227203709.2a7bff47@snowdrop.home> <1159375278.20060227214923@gentoo.org> <20060227213321.7ee405ec@snowdrop.home> <394439379.20060228103817@gentoo.org> <20060228145246.67dee076@snowdrop.home> <1141139552.2741.2.camel@localhost> <7310506941.20060228162637@gentoo.org> <20060228154246.3e34d340@snowdrop.home> <1141143118.2741.18.camel@localhost> <20060228163532.273200be@snowdrop.home> <1232307950.20060228180003@gentoo.org> <20060228170954.37396045@snowdrop.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="----------CD1C3CF2913D42C" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.3 (20050822) at top-hosting.cz X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.01 tagged_above=-999 required=6 tests=[AWL=0.589, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -2.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: f627a231-f075-4629-aaeb-cf6650b2102e X-Archives-Hash: 1ae34e222ea47ada8b36a1356b9b070a ------------CD1C3CF2913D42C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A28.2.2006, 18:09:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:00:03 +0100 Jakub Moc wrote: | >> PVR includes the revision of an ebuild. This means that if a | >> revbump is made on a webapp package to fix a critical flaw, users | >> will still have the old broken package installed too. This is | >> especially relevant for security issues, but also applies to other | >> kinds of fix. > |=20 > | Not including the revision into the SLOT can break the apps by > | removing the needed files from a live site... I still can't see any > | *QA* violation there. > Again, that's a design flaw. It's an eclass that's abusing SLOT, thus > it's a QA issue. OK, so kernel-2.eclass is abusing the slot as well, go scream on kernel devs. > | Yeah, it checks for that since that's the way the eclass is designed. > | You can't declare a slot in a kernel ebuild either. > One is a design flaw. The other is not. Ah, tell me about the dual standards :P > | Well, starts to be boring - so, either come with something valid from > | QA standpoint or stop now. > This is a valid issue from a QA standpoint. This is also why I'm not > going to waste my time doing a proper list -- rather than addressing > issues, they are being passed off as irrelevant or even features. Next time, rather think a couple of times up before claiming something very broken on a public mailing list where you have no proof for such claims. Will be immensely helpful for everyone involved. Thanks. --=20 jakub ------------CD1C3CF2913D42C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFEBIiwhxfV/c66PZ4RApHNAJwJwgzOIjfuveRfx6Ew3Sd31WasqgCgtAsk hU8RXOt1qS2fGccNWy8cdrQ= =b/uH -----END PGP MESSAGE----- ------------CD1C3CF2913D42C-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list