From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5CC7138334 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 07:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43A04E08DA; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 07:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96E72E0883 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 07:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4ED89335C8B; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 07:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1529739476.21177.8.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 09:37:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20180623073030.wdrjfrcv3swqwfkx@proprietary-killer> References: <20180623025046.djmsv44moxuqkv6t@proprietary-killer> <1529738520.21177.5.camel@gentoo.org> <20180623073030.wdrjfrcv3swqwfkx@proprietary-killer> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ZYCwyi5gt/BP7bdus9ft" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: b23c5b35-2ae4-4a91-934a-02f29773446d X-Archives-Hash: f359b4b7b7dd651f9200566be6699288 --=-ZYCwyi5gt/BP7bdus9ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable W dniu sob, 23.06.2018 o godzinie 02=E2=88=B630=E2=80=89-0500, u=C5=BCytkow= nik Marty E. Plummer napisa=C5=82: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 09:22:00AM +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > W dniu pi=C4=85, 22.06.2018 o godzinie 21=E2=88=B650=E2=80=89-0500, u= =C5=BCytkownik Marty E. > > Plummer napisa=C5=82: > > > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to = an > > > autotools based build. Recently I've ran into app-crypt/mhash, which = is > > > in a semi-abandoned state (talking with the maintainer on twitter atm= ), > > > and I was thinking it may be a good idea to set up a project for keep= ing > > > these semi-abandoned and really-abandoned libraries and projects up t= o > > > date and such. > > >=20 > > > Basically, an upstream for packages who's upstream is either > > > uncontactable or is otherwise not accepting bug fixes and patches. So > > > far I can only think of app-crypt/mhash and app-arch/bzip2 but I'm su= re > > > there are others in this state. > > >=20 > >=20 > > So in order to fix problem of semi-abandoned packages, you're creating > > an indirect herd-like entity that will soon be semi-abandoned itself > > because people will be dumping random packages into it and afterwards > > nobody will claim responsibility for them. > >=20 > > --=20 > > Best regards, > > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny >=20 > No, I mean for packages which are important enough in gentoo to warrant > such treatment. For instance, every email I've tried for bzip2's > upstream bounced or recieved no reply. That, I assume, is important > enough to actually maintain and improve. Any other library which may be > as important which are as inactive would be added. Sounds like you're going to take over half of base-system ;-). I really prefer having single dedicated individuals for that kind of stuff. Projects just blur the responsibility. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-ZYCwyi5gt/BP7bdus9ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEbbsHzE8NrQbqCv5BsHoa6u+0Rk4FAlst+NRfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDZE QkIwN0NDNEYwREFEMDZFQTBBRkU0MUIwN0ExQUVBRUZCNDQ2NEUACgkQsHoa6u+0 Rk5cGw//foEa7k14z1bPKPUO4s3MCcIdVyxbJ7qPh9K67RivthrOkvxhufb0hLgU u0yQnxX0tY6ydmepjxxcjN22Op2fINLkelPc6KSQHo25YbcY3nyPEn1MDFkpZdSH oLgTxp9fjHw2s3M0OzLs0XsCDma2fA9hoeMDIvo16fZKDGyAYolQqmpzq6Udf93u dHnI5urABUI+pD9nytl1igH3m7zcIiYGr6l1eGxAfDA+7sEHWVUmmWt92pibwFIF eop1RZqEDvhNjH52jhNKZg7droIIFgbUxTlYXTTTYAgdlr2VfcWOz5HPVrrsoMZR kc6LqGq4f1aVpzAp4Wsds5eA2vu2GNagbkO7w9pSU5dBLWhlUTFvkWte+mXnYhPR 1heDiOsfXNWkG3t4jWkEUWmj73nqyAdqATILS6x9TmwooVPhCTEVYWlPpw6mjQlo eV7gFQMzz2Z52TwoPABGqYBmqECJEGw+InGAS+vaU5iJRUWK/cCPsZhs2PF3+0wx BHk4loF4bfqfZVnKCTwMSmKH0OEHyvK4pu12VFnOssGf+nj9KUMWcWxuoIN7OIO0 b5kLBl40DZsFrjn9pfjb4VTpSwGC56rRquTf4ZpapkBiTQ6SnU/q/N/hotrs792K lO2LzPXPeVuzvRTOC5VJVJJ7m5tERzLztAvcP1Tnv99MwQroDBA= =Nr19 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ZYCwyi5gt/BP7bdus9ft--