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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:06:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1515611196.1284.15.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEdQ38F7bn3sOLdcPVxv+md_kmVoKLMhwzYofB2b73xuPUHLMQ@mail.gmail.com>

W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner
napisał:
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17∶08 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner
> > napisał:
> > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Andreas K. Huettel <dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > > During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was made to implement
> > > > changes to the gentoo-dev mailing list [1].
> > > > 
> > > > These changes affect only the gentoo-dev mailing list, and will come into
> > > > effect on 23 January 2018.
> > > > 
> > > > * Subscribing to the list and receiving list mail remains as it is now.
> > > > * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo developers and
> > > >   whitelisted additional participants.
> > > > * Whitelisting requires that one developer vouches for you. We intend this
> > > >   to be as unbureaucratic as possible.
> > > > * Obviously, repeated off-topic posting as well as behaviour against the
> > > >   Code of Conduct [2] will lead to revocation of the posting permission.
> > > > 
> > > > If, as a non-developer, you want to participate in a discussion on
> > > > gentoo-dev,
> > > > - either reply directly to the author of a list mail and ask him/her to
> > > > forward your message,
> > > > - or ask any Gentoo developer of your choice to get you whitelisted.
> > > > 
> > > > If, as a developer, you want to have someone whitelisted, please comment on
> > > > bug 644070 [3]. Similar to Bugzilla editbugs permission, if you are vouching
> > > > for a contributor you are expected to keep an eye on their activity.
> > > 
> > > It seems like the obvious way this fails is some Gentoo developer acks
> > > one of the problem people. I don't think that's particularly unlikely.
> > > Then what do we do?
> > > 
> > 
> > Then it becomes comrel business.
> 
> If that was an effective solution, wouldn't the problem already be solved?

One of the problems mentioned before was that a person could easily
evade the ban via subscribing from another e-mail address. In this case
it's no longer possible, as he would need to obtain the vouching for his
new e-mail address, and for that he would first have to have something
positive to post.

Of course this relies on developers not vouching for new people out of
the blue but expecting them to have something to contribute first.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny



  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-10 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-09 21:20 [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list Andreas K. Huettel
2018-01-09 22:20 ` Francesco Riosa
2018-01-09 22:27   ` Alec Warner
2018-01-10  0:37 ` Philip Webb
2018-01-10  1:24   ` Michael Orlitzky
2018-01-10  1:08 ` Matt Turner
2018-01-10  9:55   ` Michał Górny
2018-01-10 17:11     ` Matt Turner
2018-01-10 19:06       ` Michał Górny [this message]
2018-01-10 19:31         ` Alec Warner
2018-01-10 19:45           ` Michał Górny
2018-01-10 20:48           ` M. J. Everitt
2018-01-10 21:13             ` Alec Warner
2018-01-10  5:48 ` Eray Aslan
2018-01-10  7:55   ` Lars Wendler
2018-01-10 10:57     ` David Seifert
2018-01-10 13:49       ` kuzetsa
2018-01-10 14:50         ` M. J. Everitt
2018-01-15 13:26       ` Tom H
2018-01-15 15:09         ` Rich Freeman
2018-01-15 22:49           ` Gordon Pettey
2018-01-10 14:55     ` Alexander Berntsen
2018-01-10 15:09       ` M. J. Everitt
2018-01-10 15:52       ` kuzetsa
2018-01-11  7:03     ` Eray Aslan
2018-01-11  8:30       ` Lars Wendler
2018-01-10  9:53   ` Michał Górny
2018-01-10 11:14     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-01-10 17:16     ` Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
2018-01-10 19:44       ` Michał Górny
2018-01-11  1:12       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-01-11  4:22         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2018-01-11  5:37           ` Gordon Pettey
2018-01-11  8:21             ` Lars Wendler
2018-01-11 17:07         ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2018-01-11 17:34           ` Rich Freeman
2018-01-11 17:59             ` Matthias Maier
2018-01-13  0:02           ` Paul B. Henson
2018-01-11 14:48     ` R0b0t1
2018-01-11 17:03     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-01-10 19:56 ` Fabian Groffen
2018-01-10 22:28 ` Roy Bamford
2018-01-10 23:20   ` Rich Freeman
2018-01-10 23:27     ` M. J. Everitt
2018-01-10 23:35       ` Rich Freeman
2018-01-10 23:39         ` M. J. Everitt
2018-01-11  1:03   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-01-11 11:44     ` Roy Bamford
2018-01-11  3:22 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] " Benda Xu
2018-01-11 19:54   ` William Hubbs
2018-01-12 23:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul B. Henson
2018-03-20  8:52 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-03-24  3:11   ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2018-03-24  3:34     ` Aaron Bauman
2018-03-25  4:07       ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)

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