From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9E211396D0 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15DC7E0C01; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3534E0BF4 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E41E333BE61; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1506053238.1115.0.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reviving the Sandbox project From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 06:07:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <1506023769.15165.14.camel@gentoo.org> <1506025998.3293.1.camel@gentoo.org> <1506027262.15165.15.camel@gentoo.org> <1506028054.8561.1.camel@gentoo.org> <1506029117.15165.17.camel@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: c43e8819-ed55-4eb9-a07c-96ad403486c9 X-Archives-Hash: d8c3508334c9d4776ed18f59b12ab6cb W dniu czw, 21.09.2017 o godzinie 15∶41 -0700, użytkownik Matt Turner napisał: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Given that sandbox is utterly broken by design, I don't really want to > > put too much effort in trying to make it a little better. I'd rather put > > the minimal effort required to make it not-much-worse. > > You said in your initial email that you weren't an expert in its > internals, but here you say it's broken by design. Why do you think > that? > Because it uses LD_PRELOAD which is a huge hack and which causes guaranteed issues we can't really fix. All we can do is disable it for emacs, for compiler-rt and I'm afraid this list will grow because overriding random library functions is never a good idea. -- Best regards, Michał Górny