From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA7911396D0 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 06:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 801641FC058; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 06:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C5161FC002 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 06:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8866C34182E; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 06:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1502779735.828.5.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing PMS to Portage Manager Specification From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 08:48:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <36fd7740-c0c9-5957-0e6b-38b5fd50bba0@gentoo.org> <20170814184221.GP22159@stuge.se> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-OUiL4HcUID/TXgg/ISWj" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 11ba866b-d767-4e79-81ee-e6705d319123 X-Archives-Hash: eff58516e1cc1abce67339be2dd79d5a --=-OUiL4HcUID/TXgg/ISWj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On pon, 2017-08-14 at 18:39 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:20:26 -0700 > Rich Freeman wrote: >=20 > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 5:26 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. > > wrote: > > >=20 > > > Portage supports sets, but the PMS has no mention. Then there is > > > debate on what they are. Creating so much noise it drowns the bug > > > request and makes it invalid. Despite the need still existing, and > > > PMS lacking anything on sets. > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D624300 > > >=20 > > > Just the needs I have with portage are stalled, marked as invalid. > > > No discussion for inclusion in PMS. Like documenting sets. =20 > >=20 > > Ah, well, that's the main mystery of this thread solved. Thanks. >=20 > That is the tip of the iceberg, not the main problem itself. I have > never been a fan of EAPI, or the resulting PMS, etc. Having been around > before such existed, I do not believe it has helped Gentoo and in fact > maybe the opposite. Why EAPI 0 stuff is in tree, or very old EAPIs. >=20 > Now becoming more real issues rather than just a dislike of EAPI. >=20 Yes, it would be much better if we didn't have EAPI and instead of old EAPI=3D0 ebuilds we would just have old ebuilds that install half-broken packages because of ebuild incompatibility. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-OUiL4HcUID/TXgg/ISWj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKmBAABCgCQFiEEbbsHzE8NrQbqCv5BsHoa6u+0Rk4FAlmSmVdfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDZE QkIwN0NDNEYwREFEMDZFQTBBRkU0MUIwN0ExQUVBRUZCNDQ2NEUSHG1nb3JueUBn ZW50b28ub3JnAAoJELB6GurvtEZOhDYQALbckXBydLITEQTF+MK/0zl/50t6mmS0 rznxEjOKHcsz4QkMRhfZdl+E2qqEnKAq/1zYBumDAyEQsqtK4Da2TU2w+179jbZj oxab1oZB+0ZOx1+E0adQfS/oCT9BKDDhcVeTX2dkoeMTuoPgfu3JSRCWXF4wr6y/ AU06RLWY8Ih4s7XG317G2x9SVxIuyawE0M3Pjel5m1imGKjAbSG0cuk3xASB9Epx TH5oKd4tuWVPJcbyEFUGjX8cj3jjI0CTuRPn075Dp1Ua+7RhQfDOtuB/3107ll61 YI5lQDojTDlQpKlq9s4S2ftqxxmmd738HjIWNmno5XMQ+JaYQMSWwrQhyV3dsCJT gdXFMUPfUs1qm+icNVbXitcjMMyrxX+1a5DIPUgbNxw9HFCW+9Wk3bPvIVF/n7JW LMhJyyS6OK21tpBlrnz1itEenXFJ/87P8u26Y/LJd9LvbIRFy5DRJrw/BSYzC7MS 8IXbAjQSYu/5eDQWVuFdhmd7bxoUdZIPvhqTGtghrekX4dRiwvU/vZ6gj6PpgRF1 YrRXrzV4jFV4k38uWX1zPFA6rJyusApBeGNQJwoN1ofVO0cAccFo3M0h8BJNoziK RUzzVtiAYoliqVRyRmVArZwY3Lc03FaxapfYrBMLQDpw37aY1Sv7oxfyWuYGsGTh r6zvXz6uFl/Y =jQRv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-OUiL4HcUID/TXgg/ISWj--